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| Are you happy that Warrington are postponing games at the moment? You've got 9 players who've tested positive or been identified by track and trace. But with 9 out of the first team 25, are you really suggesting you couldn't beat Leigh? Your academy could probably run Leigh pretty close on their own. With 10 or so regular first team players you'd win comfortably and give a few lads a good run out.
Why call it off just because you can under the rules? Last season there was very little disruption and players and clubs seemed to understand the need to complete the competition. Now it seems like no one cares and just want to do as little as they can. Each game that gets called off is chipping away at the reputation of the competition and must be making Sky think twice about bothering at anything like the level they do.
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Quote ="Saddened!"Are you happy that Warrington are postponing games at the moment? You've got 9 players who've tested positive or been identified by track and trace. But with 9 out of the first team 25, are you really suggesting you couldn't beat Leigh? Your academy could probably run Leigh pretty close on their own. With 10 or so regular first team players you'd win comfortably and give a few lads a good run out.
Why call it off just because you can under the rules? Last season there was very little disruption and players and clubs seemed to understand the need to complete the competition. Now it seems like no one cares and just want to do as little as they can. Each game that gets called off is chipping away at the reputation of the competition and must be making Sky think twice about bothering at anything like the level they do.'"
Warrington game postponed within the Co Vid protocol within the rules.
However people in glass houses shouldn`t throw stones:-
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ce-4663677
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Quote ="Saddened!"Are you happy that Warrington are postponing games at the moment? You've got 9 players who've tested positive or been identified by track and trace. But with 9 out of the first team 25, are you really suggesting you couldn't beat Leigh? Your academy could probably run Leigh pretty close on their own. With 10 or so regular first team players you'd win comfortably and give a few lads a good run out.
Why call it off just because you can under the rules? Last season there was very little disruption and players and clubs seemed to understand the need to complete the competition. Now it seems like no one cares and just want to do as little as they can. Each game that gets called off is chipping away at the reputation of the competition and must be making Sky think twice about bothering at anything like the level they do.'"
Warrington game postponed within the Co Vid protocol within the rules.
However people in glass houses shouldn`t throw stones:-
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ce-4663677
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| Carrying on without 9 players would have been more attainable had we not have loaned out so many players, but in order to get Williams on we have lost a lot of the fringe.
While Williams could be a great signing, given the nature of the world, it may have been short sighted to lose so many players to squeeze him in. Long answer to a long question.
Short answer, if the precedent had been set to plough on I would have been annoyed, but clubs back door at every opportunity
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| Bit of a different thing that. We ultimately didn't refuse to go, SL changed the fixtures and we were just about to go into lockdown at that point.
I'd be annoyed if Saints postponed a game they didn't have to. The clubs need to realise the damage they are collectively doing. 13 games and counting haven't been fulfilled. If it carries on sky can pull the funding as per the contract.
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| Last season we did everything we could to play as many games as we could. Even when other teams didn't.
This season, it appears as though teams are mysteriously having covid outbreaks just before they are due to play a tough game.
"Last season there was very little disruption" - Catalans played 13 games and made the playoffs. This is patently untrue.
I'm happy for Warrington to not sacrifice results for the good of the game. No other club with covid outbreaks seemed to care about the reputation of the competition, why should we?
Super League needs to get a better grasp on the situation.
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| To be fair Hull postponed their home game against us last week (Leigh) and I'm sure their remaining players + some academy one's would have beaten us. Maybe clubs are concerned about the points difference also, why beat us by 10 or 20, when you can do it by 40 or 50 ?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Are you happy that Warrington are postponing games at the moment? You've got 9 players who've tested positive or been identified by track and trace. But with 9 out of the first team 25, are you really suggesting you couldn't beat Leigh? Your academy could probably run Leigh pretty close on their own. With 10 or so regular first team players you'd win comfortably and give a few lads a good run out.
=#FF0000Why call it off just because you can under the rules? Last season there was very little disruption and players and clubs seemed to understand the need to complete the competition. Now it seems like no one cares and just want to do as little as they can. Each game that gets called off is chipping away at the reputation of the competition and must be making Sky think twice about bothering at anything like the level they do.'"
Stop inferring that our club is in the wrong, when the game is cancelled under RFL rules. Covid is rife and accelerating at the moment in the Warrington and Halton areas, despite this, the government lift restrictions, today. People are still contracting Covid when they've been double jabbed, the hospitals are struggling with capacity, and all you want to whinge about is a game of rugby that isn't happening.
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| Are these positive cases or is it to do with the track & trace app ?
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| Quote ="ninearches"Are these positive cases or is it to do with the track & trace app ?'"
It'll be your medical team judging close contacts who need to isolate plus positive tests. I'm not suggesting there is any wrongdoing, just wondering what people think about whether the games should go ahead. You'd beat Leigh with 9 missing, you did comfortably recently.
Sky have reduced SL to one game a week and they are no longer promoting it. It can't be a good look to be postponing games all over the place.
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| Let the games go ahead Christ we had over 100k for grand Prix at the weekend.just had 60 kfor euro finals..today is freedom Day or supposed to be either shut up shop or carry on it got to be one or the other
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Stop inferring that our club is in the wrong, when the game is cancelled under RFL rules. Covid is rife and accelerating at the moment in the Warrington and Halton areas, despite this, the government lift restrictions, today. People are still contracting Covid when they've been double jabbed, the hospitals are struggling with capacity, and all you want to whinge about is a game of rugby that isn't happening.'"
I'm not inferring they've done anything wrong. I trust the medical staff are doing the right thing with testing and close contacts 100%. I'm also not suggesting you're doing anything you aren't entitled to do within the rules. I just think the clubs should feel an obligation to get the games played for the sake of the sport's future.
Your point about NHS capacity is nonsense. They said yesterday hospitalisations are one sixteenth of the last wave and serious cases one twentieth. If the NHS was in danger they wouldn't have removed all the restrictions.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'm not inferring they've done anything wrong. I trust the medical staff are doing the right thing with testing and close contacts 100%. I'm also not suggesting you're doing anything you aren't entitled to do within the rules. I just think the clubs should feel an obligation to get the games played for the sake of the sport's future.
=#FF0000Your point about NHS capacity is nonsense. They said yesterday hospitalisations are one sixteenth of the last wave and serious cases one twentieth. If the NHS was in danger they wouldn't have removed all the restrictions.'"
Ok smartarris, you go out and contract it, and see where you get to if you need hospital treatment. You're talking cobblers suggesting my point is nonsense, as I've had first hand experience over this with members of my family over the weekend.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'm not inferring they've done anything wrong. I trust the medical staff are doing the right thing with testing and close contacts 100%. I'm also not suggesting you're doing anything you aren't entitled to do within the rules. I just think the clubs should feel an obligation to get the games played for the sake of the sport's future.
Your point about NHS capacity is nonsense. They said yesterday hospitalisations are one sixteenth of the last wave and serious cases one twentieth. If the NHS was in danger they wouldn't have removed all the restrictions.'"
The rate of hospitalisations isn't nonsense or as simplistic as stating its a small fraction of a previous peak. The issue is that the average stay of a Covid patient is 28 days whilst typically for elective procedures its between 3 and 5 days.
As the song goes "there maybe trouble ahead..."
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| Hard to take this thread seriously when the opening post states that there was ‘little disruption’ to last season.
That in itself is a load of nonsense.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Bit of a different thing that. We ultimately didn't refuse to go, SL changed the fixtures and we were just about to go into lockdown at that point.
I'd be annoyed if Saints postponed a game they didn't have to. The clubs need to realise the damage they are collectively doing. 13 games and counting haven't been fulfilled. If it carries on sky can pull the funding as per the contract.'"
Both Leeds and St Helens refused to play Catalan in France, and got away with it.
The SL hierarchy didn`t punish either team and chickened out by altering the fixture schedule.
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| Said it before, it seems to be unravelling and compared to last season the disruption seems much less to be part of a managed structure and much more liberal bending of rules.
Player welfare come first. But make no bones about it, the game was already in huge decline, is being made to look like a shambles and is in danger of losing sponsors fed up with last minute cancellations, no-shows and bad publicity.
Yep, player welfare comes first, but the future of the sport is a good second and if clubs can, within reasonable parameters, complete fixtures then they should have to do so.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Both Leeds and St Helens refused to play Catalan in France, and got away with it.
The SL hierarchy didn`t punish either team and chickened out by altering the fixture schedule.'"
It was days before the end of the season and they were about to change the travel restrictions again and put us into lockdown again. Potentially getting stuck in France or isolating on return and missing the playoffs was a valid concern. If Saints do it this season when they are in a position to play the game I'll hammer them for it.
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| Had Warrington won the semi final and reached the Challenge Cup final at the weekend, do you think they'd have pulled out and let the semi finalist take their place? Or do you think they would have fielded a team?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Had Warrington won the semi final and reached the Challenge Cup final at the weekend, do you think they'd have pulled out and let the semi finalist take their place? Or do you think they would have fielded a team?'"
Starting to think I would rather read Poky’s ramblings than what you are posting. You are just stirring now, are you still giddy from the weekends result or something.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I just think the clubs should feel an obligation to get the games played for the sake of the sport's future.
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We did last season, and watched other clubs take advantage of the rules.
And we've seen others take advantage of the rules again this season, notably Cas. Why should we be the only ones putting out a Covid-weakened team?
Coming back to your point. I'd want clubs to put out a team if they possibly can but if no-one else has the good of the game in mind, why should Warrington?
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| There is also the point that Saddened has not got a bloody clue what is going on inside the Warrington camp. Had we made it to Wembley and had to put an academy side out we would have done.....and won.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Had Warrington won the semi final and reached the Challenge Cup final at the weekend, do you think they'd have pulled out and let the semi finalist take their place? Or do you think they would have fielded a team?'"
If we'd have been playing your lot in the final then we could've played with 9 missing and we'd still beat you seeing as we'd have the ref, the officials and the RFL disciplinary committee all on our side........oh yes, and we've got the hoodoo on you too!!
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| Stupid comparison to last year. At no point has the sport played games when there were 50k cases a day and rising, last year was played through either heightened lockdown rules or lower cases circulating naturally.
9 players due to COVID, Widdop, Ashton injured, Inglis retired, Butler Robson, & Roebuck out on loan. With Williams coming in I make that 14 players missing out of the squad and I may be missing some. Warrington showed last year we were prepared to play games with many players missing. If you haven’t got the players, you haven’t got the players.
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| If we can field a team we should irrespective of what other sides are doing
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Are you happy that Warrington are postponing games at the moment? You've got 9 players who've tested positive or been identified by track and trace. But with 9 out of the first team 25, are you really suggesting you couldn't beat Leigh? Your academy could probably run Leigh pretty close on their own. With 10 or so regular first team players you'd win comfortably and give a few lads a good run out.
Why call it off just because you can under the rules? Last season there was very little disruption and players and clubs seemed to understand the need to complete the competition. Now it seems like no one cares and just want to do as little as they can. Each game that gets called off is chipping away at the reputation of the competition and must be making Sky think twice about bothering at anything like the level they do.'"
Why does no one post on the St Helens rlfans site by the way? Pop over and give it a go, you may restart the trend?
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