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| Giving Ben Westwood a new contract just about sums up the level of ambition of this club
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| Great for Bennie. Not great for the Club
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Great for Bennie. Not great for the Club'"
100% correct bet he couldn't get the pen quick enough to sign it. Not one other team with any ambition of at the top end of the league would've have dreamt of offering him a deal
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| On brighter news, against some of our more recent recruits in the forwards he still doesn't look too bad, compared say to : Cox, Bailey, Hughes, Savelio, Dodds, Westerman etc.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"On brighter news, against some of our more recent recruits in the forwards he still doesn't look too bad, compared say to : Cox, Bailey, Hughes, Savelio, Dodds, Westerman etc.'"
So we re-sign a has been penalty machine just because of poor previous recruitment, precisely why this club is going nowhere.
Instead of learning and improving on mistakes made, they stick to type by keeping the status quo. Just like the one out sterile type of rugby currently employed by the club.
I've already a Wigan and Widnes fan laughing at the lack of ambition. The Widnes fan said he'd be furious if they'd signed him
The same Widnes fan who renewed a season ticket based on the fact they got shot of Brown. He was right there and he's right here
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| Don't really see the problem with this. He can still do a job for us. He won't be a regular first choice 17 player, and will probably sit as 6th choice prop option behind Hill, Cooper, Crosby, Sita and Philbin. I'm ok with it, assuming his salary matched his squad position.
I think plenty of clubs would have been interested for a player like that to provide squad depth.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Don't really see the problem with this. He can still do a job for us. He won't be a regular first choice 17 player, and will probably sit as 6th choice prop option behind Hill, Cooper, Crosby, Sita and Philbin. I'm ok with it, assuming his salary matched his squad position.
I think plenty of clubs would have been interested for a player like that to provide squad depth.'"
Think that's a pretty fair summary of it, I get what others are saying but he won't be frontline if all others are fit.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Don't really see the problem with this. He can still do a job for us. He won't be a regular first choice 17 player, and will probably sit as 6th choice prop option behind Hill, Cooper, Crosby, Sita and Philbin. I'm ok with it, assuming his salary matched his squad position.
I think plenty of clubs would have been interested for a player like that to provide squad depth.'"
Stop talking sense!!!
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| Don't forget Tiz Lad would moan if we signed the current oz front row, I think its ok as long as he is on a reduced salary.
Plus who else is available that we can sign for the money ????
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| His salary won't be on the cap due to length of time at club.
That said. I'd despair if he was a regular in the team next season.
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| He's worth another year.
The bloke man turn our season around after his return with one big hit. Ok he got a few weeks off but we beat leeds against thr odds.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"So we re-sign a has been penalty machine just because of poor previous recruitment, precisely why this club is going nowhere.
Instead of learning and improving on mistakes made, they stick to type by keeping the status quo. Just like the one out sterile type of rugby currently employed by the club.
I've already a Wigan and Widnes fan laughing at the lack of ambition. The Widnes fan said he'd be furious if they'd signed him
The same Widnes fan who renewed a season ticket based on the fact they got shot of Brown. He was right there and he's right here'"
Widnes, that showed class & ambition signing Rangi Chase. That went well at least we had a few more games out of Sandow
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"His salary won't be on the cap due to length of time at club. '"
Not any more, that dispensation was removed a few years back.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Don't really see the problem with this. He can still do a job for us. He won't be a regular first choice 17 player, and will probably sit as 6th choice prop option behind Hill, Cooper, Crosby, Sita and Philbin. I'm ok with it, assuming his salary matched his squad position.
I think plenty of clubs would have been interested for a player like that to provide squad depth.'"
I agree. I think he still has a lot to offer especially in the bigger games. Only one with a bit of biff.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Stop talking sense!!!'"
Sorry!
'This typifies the direction this club is going, it holds on to failed players almost as long as it does its failed coaches!' ... That better?
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| At least Ben will give 100% of what he has to give, but i find signals coming from the club very alarming especially with the poor season & lack of club interest in fixing the problem. I don't know if any more information will come from the club once we are safe for SL next season which could be settled this weekend if we can beat Leigh. The lack of enterprise from the club stupefying.
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| Difficult one to judge when considered in isolation.
Can see pro's and con's.
Really need to see the other forwards in the 2018 squad to take a view.
Maybe some thoughts that Ben will be retained in some club role after?
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| Quote ="ninearches"At least Ben will give 100% of what he has to give, but i find signals coming from the club very alarming especially with the poor season & lack of club interest in fixing the problem. I don't know if any more information will come from the club once we are safe for SL next season which could be settled this weekend if we can beat Leigh. The lack of enterprise from the club stupefying.'"
What signs are these as there are very few if any signs coming from the club at the minute.
only signs are coming from OZ that we are actively seeking a new coach.
Andy the club have announced a couple of signings bit that's all
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| Great decision on Bennie. I'd also offer Rob Burrow a deal too.
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| Absolutely shocking decision, he is finished. This clubs goes from one despairing issue to another. Hanging on to old players regardless of their service shows a complete lack of ambition by the club and those fans applauding it.
This is why we are not a "Top Club", we will always be also ran's!
Bennie "HAS" been a terrific servant to this club. The club have to recognise this and reward accordingly, which they have done.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Absolutely shocking decision, he is finished. This clubs goes from one despairing issue to another. Hanging on to old players regardless of their service shows a complete lack of ambition by the club and those fans applauding it.
This is why we are not a "Top Club", we will always be also ran's!
Bennie "HAS" been a terrific servant to this club. The club have to recognise this and reward accordingly, which they have done.'"
I am presuming that you have details of his contract which is obviously at the expense of other top signings and the clause that states he will be playing in every game? Lack of ambition, or a step up from Blythe if he is taking that spot on the roster? We (I) don't know yet and I'd prefer to reserve a bit outrage till we get our full squad line up confirmed for next year, as I wouldn't want to peak too early.
You are entitled to your opinion of course, I don't agree, but, that doesn't mean that I lack ambition for the club. I'm sure there will be plenty of other opportunities to be miffed and getting our collective 'knickers in a twist' over recruitment among our other ills.
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| Quote ="marshman777"Quote ="ninearches"At least Ben will give 100% of what he has to give, but i find signals coming from the club very alarming especially with the poor season & lack of club interest in fixing the problem. I don't know if any more information will come from the club once we are safe for SL next season which could be settled this weekend if we can beat Leigh. The lack of enterprise from the club stupefying.'"
What signs are these as there are very few if any signs coming from the club at the minute.
only signs are coming from OZ that we are actively seeking a new coach.
Andy the club have announced a couple of signings bit that's all'"
Exactly,the sound of silence from the club is deafening.
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| I would have to agree with UR about Bennie. Thinking about it logically, if he is only costing the club peanuts, then surely he is worth retaining. The club will still have lots of cap money for other players. So as has been said, it depends on Bennie's contract - which none of us are privy to.
I am also a little surprised that there has been no other player movement considering the number of contracts that end this year. But that could all be waiting on the 10 points we need to ensure we avoid the million pound game.
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| Did Bennie play a bad game when he played this season anyone?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Did Bennie play a bad game when he played this season anyone?'"
yes he looked very poor at the start of the year up until the leeds game when he drilled sutcliffe into the pitch, then he woke up a bit. How many games was that?
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