Friday 4th August – Widnes Vikings (A)

Saturday 12th August – Catalans Dragons (H)

Saturday 19th August – Halifax (H) (SKY)

Saturday 2nd September – London Broncos (A) (SKY)

Saturday 9th September – Leigh Centurions (H)

Sunday 17th September – Featherstone Rovers (A)

Saturday 23rd September – Hull KR (H)

Time TBC and the last 3 games could change depending on SKY's selection.

Friday 4th August – Widnes Vikings (A) ---8pm
Saturday 12th August – Catalans Dragons (H) --- 3pm
Saturday 19th August – Halifax (H) (SKY) --- 3.15pm
Saturday 2nd September – London Broncos (A) (SKY) --- 8pm
Saturday 9th September – Leigh Centurions (H) ---- 3pm
Sunday 17th September – Featherstone Rovers (A) ---- 3pm
Saturday 23rd September – Hull KR (H) ---- 3pm
(Times come from SuperLeagues fixture list)

Tough start.

Looking at previous middle 8 tables, 2 losses is ok, 3 and you're in million £ game territory. We need to be winning at least one of the first two. Win both and we're home and dry I'd suggest.

HKR last, hope that is not important for us by then

Thats my day trip to London up the swanny if its 8pm k.o

+1

Why is this one 8pm, when the other Saturday TV games are afternoon? Bet London are well chuffed - their biggest game of the season, and a chance to get a good travelling support, and they get shafted by Sky, and get nothing for it. We've clearly less grounds to complain,as we loll around in Rupert's cash.

It's my only complaint though - i'm happy with Saturday afternoon games as the new norm, and pleased that I'll be able to make Fev away too.

Tough start (deliberate, surely, in an effort to create drama - the biggest story Sky/the RFL could hope for in the middles would be us struggling, so I find it hard to believe it's a coincidence we have our hardest game first, and second hardest second!).

I still think we'll slip up somewhere (this board will go into melt down if it's V. Widnes!!), but can't see us winning less than 6. Win the first 2, and we should win all 7.

So there is in some quarters a doubt that we cant beat both our first two opponents in this little league? If we cant beat Widnes and Cats then I implore Simon Moran to shut down the club, bulldoze the site and build some houses.

We should be winning at least 6 of the games on that list even in our current crisis

If you are referring to my post, I make the point that this is the toughest start we could have had - do you disagree?

As I also said, I expect us to win 6 or 7 of these, but losing the first 2 would hardly constitute the biggest upset of all time. This is a risk, and I don't see why it's an issue to point it out. I still expect if we lose the Widnes game there will be people on here making ridiculous statements about bulldozing the ground and the like.

We've won 9 from 23 league games this season. We score on average 18 points a game. We let in on average 24 points a game.

After the season we've just witnessed any sane person would have quarters of doubt about beating our first two opponents. Especially with having to play Widnes on their god awful pitch.

quite happy with the times

Cats playing away from home are beatable by any team in the league so why should we struggle, Widnes finished bottom of the pile and should be treated as such, I am only thinking that Leigh may put up a fight, but even they are a team we should be beating. This is a new comp now and as such we should be full of confidence that we will be successful!!

Cats playing away from home are beatable by any team in the league so why should we struggle, Widnes finished bottom of the pile and should be treated as such, I am only thinking that Leigh may put up a fight, but even they are a team we should be beating. This is a new comp now and as such we should be full of confidence that we will be successful!!

I think the problem is the fact that if you look at the squad we had at the start of the year, you would have said that there was no chance whatsoever that we would have fallen into the bottom 4 - but we did. Now looking at the games in the new division you could say that there is no chance of us losing to sides like Widnes and Cats at home, unfortunately you only need some bad refereeing decisions, or bad luck, or nerves, or a critical injury, or Widnes / Catalans playing out of their skins, to lose these sorts of matches. Then team confidence falls and anything can happen.

One of the problems is the Middle 4's competition is designed purely to pull in more spectators. In doing so it risks a club finishing 9th actually dropping into the Championship. Now you could say that will never happen, Wire are far to good to go down. Unfortunately we saw with the old format Leeds finishing only 5th in the league but winning the GF - again, it shouldn't have happened. But in trying to get more spectators (by making the playoffs include most of the teams in the league), the RFL risked it happening, and we all know the outcome - they had to scrap that format and try this new one instead.

Anything less than 100% effort & 100% attitude will not be good enough.

There are some experienced old stagers in these championship clubs who could pull a win out of the bag.

The international break was the first thing to cross my mind aswel. Unless you stay over. Rubbish.

Out of those 7 games with those days and times, I can make 2 possibly 3 of them.
I've actually surprised myself as I'm not actually that bothered..! Not like me at all..
I do feel sorry with those involved in amateur RL who have been completely alienated with the Saturday games... But hey at least the pi$$ heads are happy !

As one of the 'pi$$ heads' you mention....correct. I like a Saturday afternoon game. However, i agree that it isn't fair on a lot of speccies that have involvement with Amateur clubs.

To repeat an earlier post though. That K.O time in London is an absolute shocker!!

In terms of the 8's themselves, if we were to struggle it will be nothing more than we deserve after some of the shocking displays this year. However, personally, i would be very surprised if we do not win at the very least 5 out of the 7 upcoming fixtures.

Being in the middle 8s is embarrassing considering Wire fans were saying back in Feb it was going to be your year to be Super League champions.

I mean, even just over a month ago a poster on here called rubber duckie said he was 'confident' Wire were going to win both the Challenge Cup and Grand Final.

Still, Wire should have enough quality to stay up. Should.

Yes, that is what we all said, just like we all said it last year.

I always find it quite amusing when fans take everything for granted...Middle 8's whats that?..



They couldn't even beat the whipping boys..

Visiting London Broncos is a messy business these days so, since I live in West London, I thought it might be useful if I suggested a way to get there.

Firstly perhaps not everyone knows that they have moved since they used to play at The Stoop in Twickenham. They now play at the Trailfinders Sports Club in Ealing. It's not, however, particularly near the middle of Ealing. If you are driving down your Sat Nav will no doubt get you there easily enough but if you are coming down on the train here's my advice.

You will get in to Euston Station and should take the Victoria Line south to Oxford Circus where you should change to the Central Line and go west all the way to Ealing Broadway. The cheapest way to travel on the underground is to use contactless at the barrier.

When you come out of the Ealing Broadway station there are many bus stops spread around in different directions and of course you need to go to the right one. There are different options but to keep it simple cross the road and go up the left side of the road opposite which is called Haven Green and go to bus stop E. There is a red disk on the top of the bus stop with the (in this case E) in white. Catch the E2 bus or the E9 bus and get off at Scotch Common. The buses have electronic boards letting you know what the next stop is.

At Scotch Common walk back a few yards and turn right onto Vallis Way which will take you to the ground. If you want a drink or something to eat turn left instead and walk down Scotch Common to the pub.

Of course there are other ways to do it but I hope this helps. It must be tempting I suppose to stay at home and watch it on TV.

No chance of going on the train, last one back is 20.31. Well done RFL.

Anything less that 7 wins is unacceptable. A top 4 wealthy club in this predicament is appalling.

Possibly the problem. Too much wealth can buy who we want, individual quality but don't play as a team like Cas, Wakey

We are going on the train Mark, just like last time!