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| GEORGE KING 2015 season games & stats
28 Feb 2015 14:30
League One Cup West Hull 10 - 36 North Wales Crusaders
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
12 Apr 2015 14:30 League 1 North Wales Crusaders 18 - 24 Newcastle Thunder
GARY WHEELER 2015 season games & stats
07 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 22 - 8 Salford Red Devils
13 Feb 2015 20:00 Super League Hull FC 6 - 7 Warrington Wolves
20 Feb 2015 20:00 World Club Challenge Warrington Wolves 12 - 18 St George Illawarra
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
KEVIN PENNY 2015 season games & stats
07 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 22 - 8 Salford Red Devils
13 Feb 2015 20:00 Super League Hull FC 6 - 7 Warrington Wolves
20 Feb 2015 20:00 World Club Challenge Warrington Wolves 12 - 18 St George Illawarra
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
02 Apr 2015 20:00 Super League Widnes Vikings 30 - 10 Warrington Wolves
06 Apr 2015 14:45 Super League Warrington Wolves 14 - 22 Castleford Tigers
JOE PHILBIN 2015 season games & stats
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
12 Apr 2015 14:30 League 1 North Wales Crusaders 18 - 24 Newcastle Thunder
The above details are courtesy of 'Love Rugby League.Com'. Four REGULAR Super League First Team players included in NWC's squad for today's game (v Keighley Cougars) with only three appearances between them for NWC. If this isn't sufficient motivation for the Cougars today, then nothing will!As usual The RFL are fiddling whilst the game burns!
I wrote that before today's game but the motivation was there.
So how can you justify allowing NWC to play four players who are good-enough to play in Super League?
I used to believe that Warrington played a 'fair' game but this simply illustrates that you're the same as every other Club. Out for what you can get!
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| So... What is it exactly you want us to do about it?
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| By that measure every single player who has a shirt number is good enough to play Super League as they've all played a reasonable amount (apart from Grixy).
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| How many of the 4 mentioned played 666? More importantly how did they play? I'm sure Wheeler and Penny would like to get back into Wire's first team.
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| Penny and Wheeler started, Philbin and King were on the bench. Keighley won 23-22.
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| Does anyone think it would be worth having a proper reserve league for super league clubs? Would the fringe squad players and promising youngsters develop more as a result?
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| Quote ="moving on..."So... What is it exactly you want us to do about it?'"
Dual Reg is a farce.
Kevin Penny's try against Keighley nearly lead to North Wales beating Keighley (Keighley won with an on-the-hooter drop goal). That would have been unfair. Even if you support dual reg, Kevin Penny doesn't meet the criteria ...
[size=50" The purpose of this Rule is to provide an enhanced Player development pathway for young Players who are not thought to be ready to make the step up to first team for their Club on a permanent basis but for whom first team match experience in a lower league is likely to be beneficial for their development. It is intended to provide additional flexibility for Clubs to make arrangements that suit the Player’s development needs whilst protecting both the playing squad requirements of the Clubs concerned and the integrity of both competitions. [/size
Keighley Cougars operate a reserve side and all the young players have been developed by the club and live within a 10 mile radius of Keighley. Last Thursday they beat Great Britain (BARLA) Amateur team convincingly. Keighley's central funding for the whole of 2015 is less than the salary paid to one Warrington first team player.
What do we want you to do about it?
When you vote in favour of the Marquee player salary cap exemption arrange, in addition, a vote in favour of requiring Super League clubs to run an "A" or under 21 with 5 over age players allowed or whatever reserve team from 2016 onwards and scrap dual registration.
It's a blight on the game of rugby league.
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| The salary cap is a blight on Rugby League in my opinion. Its an outdated concept that has long served its purpose and the end result being that the top Super League clubs cannot compete with NRL opponents. This years World Club series has shown that. On a more positive note, a big thanks to NWC for giving Wire players a run out. Without a proper reserve league they need game time.
Given that Keighley won do you not think this is a bit of an overreaction?
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| Quote ="Wires85"The salary cap is a blight on Rugby League in my opinion. '"
Agree. Should simply scrap it. With relegation the penalty if you go bust.
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Given that Keighley won do you not think this is a bit of an overreaction?'"
No. We've been saying it consistently for two years.
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| Quote ="666"GEORGE KING 2015 season games & stats
I used to believe that Warrington played a 'fair' game but this simply illustrates that you're the same as every other Club. Out for what you can get!'"
What the is this supposed to mean?
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| I think it means that it is wrong for Warrington RLFC to promote the best interests of the club and its players by following the rules (despite what your opinions of it may be).
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| How do you justify the abuse of the Caps Lock key?
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| What the proverbial is this thread about?
Dual-reg is part of the game, if you want it out go stage a protest outside Red Hall, don't come on here taking it out on us mere fans
Oh and FYI, WE aren't holding a vote on marquee signings - the owners of the Super League clubs are..
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| Quote ="Cross Hills Cougar"Keighley Cougars operate a reserve side and all the young players have been developed by the club and live within a 10 mile radius of Keighley. Last Thursday they beat Great Britain (BARLA) Amateur team convincingly. Keighley's central funding for the whole of 2015 is less than the salary paid to one Warrington first team player. '"
Well done..?
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| Quote ="Cross Hills Cougar"When you vote in favour of the Marquee player salary cap exemption arrange, in addition, a vote in favour of requiring Super League clubs to run an "A" or under 21 with 5 over age players allowed or whatever reserve team from 2016 onwards and scrap dual registration.
It's a blight on the game of rugby league.'"
For what it's worth we did vote against abolishing the under 21 comp (or was it under 23) when they got rid of it a few years back, one of only three or four that did.
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| It was a terrible idea abolishing the U21's and to this day I still can't see the logic in doing it.
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| I've just given myself 100 lashes but still don't feel my conscience is cleansed.
For my club following the rules. Within a structure it voted against.
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| I feel the same, I don't know how I will sleep tonight.
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| Yarkshiremen. Consistent, aren't they?
Whinge when they win
Whinge when the lose.
Well done to all concerned.
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| Quote ="666"GEORGE KING 2015 season games & stats
28 Feb 2015 14:30
League One Cup West Hull 10 - 36 North Wales Crusaders
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
12 Apr 2015 14:30 League 1 North Wales Crusaders 18 - 24 Newcastle Thunder
GARY WHEELER 2015 season games & stats
07 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 22 - 8 Salford Red Devils
13 Feb 2015 20:00 Super League Hull FC 6 - 7 Warrington Wolves
20 Feb 2015 20:00 World Club Challenge Warrington Wolves 12 - 18 St George Illawarra
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
KEVIN PENNY 2015 season games & stats
07 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 22 - 8 Salford Red Devils
13 Feb 2015 20:00 Super League Hull FC 6 - 7 Warrington Wolves
20 Feb 2015 20:00 World Club Challenge Warrington Wolves 12 - 18 St George Illawarra
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
02 Apr 2015 20:00 Super League Widnes Vikings 30 - 10 Warrington Wolves
06 Apr 2015 14:45 Super League Warrington Wolves 14 - 22 Castleford Tigers
JOE PHILBIN 2015 season games & stats
28 Feb 2015 15:00 Super League Catalan Dragons 38 - 18 Warrington Wolves
08 Mar 2015 15:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 32 - 24 Hull KR
13 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 18 - 6 Leeds Rhinos
19 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League St Helens 32 - 24 Warrington Wolves
27 Mar 2015 20:00 Super League Warrington Wolves 10 - 29 Huddersfield Giants
12 Apr 2015 14:30 League 1 North Wales Crusaders 18 - 24 Newcastle Thunder
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I wrote that before today's game but the motivation was there.
So how can you justify allowing NWC to play four players who are good-enough to play in Super League?
I used to believe that Warrington played a 'fair' game but this simply illustrates that you're the same as every other Club. Out for what you can get!'"
Are you Leaguefan in disguise?
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| I'm sure we twisted NWC arm and made them play too.
I would have thought all we do is tell them who is available, and they pick them from that point.
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| You're a disgrace, the lot of you.
It's interesting that Wire have such squad depth that they can loan four very good players out and still field a winning 17 against the second most successful side in the SL era? Either you are fiddling the cap or utilising witchcraft to ensure you don't get injuries. I'm going to set the OP going on an investigation into that, it's far more interesting than the anti-Keighley conspiracy theory he's come up with so far.
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| Saddened, at time you do make me chuckle!
Quote ="Saddened!"You're a disgrace, the lot of you.
It's interesting that Wire have such squad depth that they can loan four very good players out and still field a winning 17 against the second most successful side in the SL era? Either you are fiddling the cap or utilising witchcraft to ensure you don't get injuries. I'm going to set the OP going on an investigation into that, it's far more interesting than the anti-Keighley conspiracy theory he's come up with so far.'"
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| DR has been a big deal for lower level clubs for the past few season, This may not seem a big deal to clubs in Super League, but the breaking of DR rules last season cost Keighley their place in the Championship, Keighley made the decision to keep there reserve team to bring on younger players, to give young local talent a path into the semi professional ranks. Last season we repeatedly faced teams packed with super league players, we choose to go it alone and paid the price. We hoped it would be different this season with new guide lines in place, but I guess not. I know all this must seem very strange to you guys enjoying life in the Super League, so I must apologies on behalf of my fellow Keighley fans if we have bored you with this trivial matter, I shall have a stern word with my comrades and make sure we don't disturb you in your Ivory Tower again, by the way I will still shout for Wire when there on TV, got a soft spot for them, and for the record Penny was a real threat every time he got the ball yesterday.
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| No offence Shaun but I'm not going to feel guilty for not paying attention to the lower leagues.. If that puts me in an 'ivory tower' then so be it, but your anger should be directed towards the decision makers, not the fans of a club that voted against the abolition of the U21's as mentioned earlier.
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