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| I'm really looking forward to how Tony Smith reacts and sorts out these problems we are having. He came in at a point where we couldn't have got any worse and took us to the top with the best rugby I'd ever seen at Wire.
He's now faced with a big problem of an ageing side and one that is bang out of form and looks disjointed. Whether it's the Myler-Harrison squad splitter or the Aus pre-season, or whatever I'm going to enjoy watching how he turns it around as he will. The honeymoon is over, over to Tony Smith.
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| The posters who subscribe to the ISWT philosophy will no doubt be looking on with not only great concern, but great hope that he can turn the tide otherwise their philosophy will die on it's backside.
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| We have too many average players and one or two that we have kept on too long
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| Quote ="CommanderShepard"The posters who subscribe to the ISWT philosophy will no doubt be looking on with not only great concern, but great hope that he can turn the tide otherwise their philosophy will die on it's backside.'"
Sorry ,thicko alert ! What is ISWT ?
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| Quote ="TheDoc"We have too many average players and one or two that we have kept on too long'"
CBA to look back at your posts but I bet you were raging with the signings of Ratchford, Waterhouse & Hill this season and us not unloading any players than King & Anderson?
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| Players that will need replacing (this isn't about form or me singling them out just nature) are
Hodgson
Morley
Briers
Briers has probably another year in him
So we need to start slowly bringing through the youth so that they are ready for when these players go.
Carvell and Joel Monaghan, love knows what's wrong with them this season but Carvell is a liabilty and J.Monaghan looks to have traded his petrol engine for a diesel.
Wood looks to have been taking way too long reading Rauhihi's training and playing regime
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In smith we trust
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| Quote ="TheDoc"We have too many average players and one or two that we have kept on too long'"
Simplistic nonsense. Ourplayers are plenty good enough and the errors are pretty random and not confined to just the oldest players. Picking two examples - bridge and Joel are neither average or too old but both had poor games today.
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| Not really. Must admit expected more from Waterhouse but I did from Matt King in his first 12 months. As for Chris Hill we are relying too much on a young man who was playing Championship rugby last season.
It's the J Monas, Carvell and Mylers who aren't producing and Hodgson is not as sharp as last season
We are back to a few seasons a go - if briers dosent play well we fall apart
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| Quote ="SEB"Simplistic nonsense. Ourplayers are plenty good enough and the errors are pretty random and not confined to just the oldest players. Picking two examples - bridge and Joel are neither average or too old but both had poor games today.'"
And the other 15 ???
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Players that will need replacing (this isn't about form or me singling them out just nature) are
Hodgson
Morley
Briers
Briers has probably another year in him
So we need to start slowly bringing through the youth so that they are ready for when these players go.
Carvell and Joel Monaghan, love knows what's wrong with them this season but Carvell is a liabilty and J.Monaghan looks to have traded his petrol engine for a diesel.
Wood looks to have been taking way too long reading Rauhihi's training and playing regime
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In smith we trust'"
These players have been replaced Ratchford, Hill and O'Brien are the future in those positions
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| I know, i needed to word this better, filter them in slowly at first (that bit's done)
then as time goes by they get more game time until they are actually playing more games than the older players.
I think more of the younger players should be blooded in, to gain the experience
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| When Tony Smith came to our club he made two massive statments.
1 got rid of Martin Gleesson..
2 Dropped Lee Briers..
We all thought he had lost his marbles,I am sure he will turn things around and in the near future no one will look forward to facing Warrington Wolves home or away again..
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| Quote ="TheDoc"And the other 15 ???'"
Similar. I wasn't saying they were the worst, just using them to disprove your daft point.
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| Im disappointed Briers didn't step up when Myler got injured
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| The team needs to give the tackle bags some hammer this week. Too much s cragging and not enough solid tackles going in resulting in Catalans breaking the line on too many occasions. Right across the board tackles were missed. GOB seemed to be one of the only ones who had read the tackling manual.
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| Always interesting to see the posters who only contribute when we get beat.
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| Quote ="SEB"Similar. I wasn't saying they were the worst, just using them to disprove your daft point.'"
How good was Higham in that first half though? I was looking through my hands in the second hlaf.
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| Always busier on this board when people have something to moan about!
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| Quote ="jdrocket"How good was Higham in that first half though? I was looking through my hands in the second hlaf.'"
I thought Higham was our best player today, and not for the first time this season.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Always busier on this board when people have something to moan about!'"
Yeah i'm noticing that. I'm a longtime Wire fan but a newbie to these boards, can't believe how negative the vibe seems to be though.
I'm not convinced that there is anything that TS needs to sort out. From memory we weren't in blistering form at the start of last season either, it was only once the summer months rolled around that we hit our peak and reeled in the Pie Crusters. Given our relatively easier schedule for the next couple of months I would be surprised if we don't go into the Leeds and Hull fixtures in June in something resembling decent form and performances.
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| Exactly what I think....the hard away fixtures all completed!
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| Poor discipline was a really heavy contributing factor in our defeat today,we cant afford to keep giving teams as many penalties as we did today. We were the same against Saints and Widnes, We need to cut it out!
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| Re. penalties...the team are giving the same stupid penalties away week after week ,these professionals know exactly what they are doing wrong & should be able to correct the situation.
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| so in a nutshell: we are !
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| It's a test for the coach, I agree. We're not playing well at the moment other than in spells. He's paid well to sort these issues and I'm sure he will.
As an amateur, if it were me, I'd start by focusing on improving our discipline and completion rate. By being poor at both were surrendering territory and possession. That impacts everything, including attack and pereceived 'fitness' (with emphasis on the word perceived cos no one has the first clue how fut they are).
With an even share of possession and territory, we'll win most of our games because of the quality of our players. I appreciate the way we play is high risk but there's a time and place. If we clean those up, well be top 3 easy.
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