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| The nearest thing you'll see to Sean Edwards.
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| As much as I dislike him you can't hide from his talent and his attributes. He's class and the frightening thing is he's still only young as will still develop. Scary to think what he'll be like in his prime.
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| Shaun Edwards wasn't anything like Sam Tomkins in style, Edwards in the main was a support player than ran off the shoulder of anyone that made a break and he distrubuted well, he certainly didn't have the elusive running style of Sam Tomkins.
Edwards was very good at what he did, a very solid player that played in a very good Wigan side but he was nothing like Sam Tomkins in style.
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| Have to admit he was extremely good in attack tonight.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"As much as I dislike him you can't hide from his talent and his attributes. He's class and the frightening thing is he's still only young as will still develop. Scary to think what he'll be like in his prime.'"
Agree. He can read a game so well, and his vision when running with the ball make him the most dangerous player in broken play IMO.
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| Quote ="1905"Agree. He can read a game so well, and his vision when running with the ball make him the most dangerous player in broken play IMO.'"
His side-step is awesome and one of the best I've ever seen. He ghosts through defenders like there not there sometimes. He's a tough cookie aswell.
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| In terms of an attacking fullback the only player that comes close to him at the moment is Hodgson, although he does still needs to iron out a few defensive errors and he is playing some wonderful rugby league although it pains me to say it.
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| He may grow out of his petulance, and then gain the respect of other teams fans that his skill and ability deserve. Not sure that the wigan fans would want that though. I'm sure that all the annoying stuff comes from the other quality he has. He is extremely competitive, and would do anything to win.
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| I would love to see him go the NRL and see how he does for a few years, second rate Aussies come over here and rip up SL so its difficult to judge how good he is, in comparision to the best rugby league players.
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| He's obviously got a lot of skill and ability, but he comes across as quite greedy at times and reluctant to pass the ball if there's even the slightest chance he can score.
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| Yes Jax I agree with that, I remember last year in the playoffs when Wigan were against Leeds, and he must have ignored overlaps on 3 separate occasions within a space of 10 minutes so he could do that left foot step, the Aussies seem to nullify it easy enough.
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| He has started to get a rep for being a bit greedy the last few games. Thankfully though they've been in games where they weren't punished, but it'll happen once in a big game and hopefully he'll learn from it.
Biggest point from all those stated so far is that he's so tough, he gets knocked from pillar to post but gets up and carries on with it. People call him petulant but whenever he gets nailed it's never him that gets up and reacts. The worst one I saw was Howell for Quins against him a couple of years ago, straight elbow to the head at full pace, 30 seconds on the floor and he was up and going again .
Hodgson is of the same mould, not big strong guys, and get nailed time after time but get up and carry on. There's always been a question mark for me over Briers with regards to that, as he's the sort of player who could play in a tux and not get a mark on it some nights, can be untouchable but doesn't get smashed regularly like a FB.
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| Quote ="Ron"I would love to see him go the NRL and see how he does for a few years, second rate Aussies come over here and rip up SL so its difficult to judge how good he is, in comparision to the best rugby league players.'"
Agreed. Would be nice to see an English back go over there and make the big time.
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| I can't really see him ever being able to succeed in the NRL or trouble the Aussies on the international scene - simply not big enough and players like Inglis etc will run over him.
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| Quote ="Champions Again"I can't really see him ever being able to succeed in the NRL or trouble the Aussies on the international scene - simply not big enough and players like Inglis etc will run over him.'"
I don't think his lack of size would necessarily stop him from succeeding in the NRL. Inside_man compared him to Hodgson in build and it certainly didn't hold him back. I think it's more a question of attitude from Sam that would be the issue, but playing in Aus would give him the chance to become a much more mature player.
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| Quote ="Champions Again"I can't really see him ever being able to succeed in the NRL or trouble the Aussies on the international scene - simply not big enough and players like Inglis etc will run over him.'"
Brent Webb did pretty well in the NRL and for the Kiwis.
Brent Webb:
Height 179 cm (5 ft 10 in)
Weight 79 kg (12 st 6 lb)
Sam Tomkins
Height 178 cm (5 ft 10 in)
Weight 87 kg (13 st 10 lb)
Matty Bowen hasn't had a problem in the NRL with his size
Height 168 cm (5 ft 6 in)
Weight 69 kg (10 st 12 lb)
Neither has Brett Hodgson
Height 175 cm (5 ft 9 in)
Weight 76 kg (12 st 0 lb)
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| Quote ="Jax"I don't think his lack of size would necessarily stop him from succeeding in the NRL. Inside_man compared him to Hodgson in build and it certainly didn't hold him back. I think it's more a question of attitude from Sam that would be the issue, but playing in Aus would give him the chance to become a much more mature player.'"
Completely agree. He'd develop more and be playing with better players in the NRL. I think his style of play would suit the NRL alot. His speed, creativity, side-step, toughness etc. Bunnies to keep an eye on him next year with Madge going there and Russel Crowe's millions?
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| I was expecting a thread full of words like 'weasle' and 'little rat'. Plesantly suprised. As for Australia i honestly believe he is good enough to be a top player down there but he said he was homesick after 6 weeks of last years 4 nations so he has probably got a bit more growing up to do first.
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| Yeah, cos I mean your fullback is huge, just remind me how many games he had in the nrl?
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| At last some of our fans are realising that Phil Clarke was right.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"At last some of our fans are realising that Phil Clarke was right.'"
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| I dont honestly think anyone has ever doubted his ability, its just his attitude that gets on peoples backs! The kids a class act just needs to pass more as already stated.
As for NRL I think give him another year or two and he could well ne good enough at the minute I have question marks over him as a fullback.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Yeah, cos I mean your fullback is huge, just remind me how many games he had in the nrl?'"
Quite a few. No-one's even mentioned Billy Slater yet. Much smaller than Sam and Brett, but very successful in the NRL. You don't have to be that big. Alan Langer and Peter Sterling weren't exactly giants were they?
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| Quote ="Champions Again"I can't really see him ever being able to succeed in the NRL or trouble the Aussies on the international scene - simply not big enough and players like Inglis etc will run over him.'"
Size never seemed to hinder Brett Hodgson.
Think Sam would do well over there.
He may be an annoying little g1t but let's be honest, we'd love for him to be in our team.
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