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| Every now and then you get these threads about picking your all time Warrington teams, but now we've won back to back Challenge Cups it would be interesting to see who from the current squad gets into peoples teams.
The only criteria is that they are players you have seen play for Wire since you started watching. Judge them on their Wire performances, then put at the end the number out of 17 who are from the current squad...
1 Dave Lyon
2 Chris Hicks
3 Allan Bateman
4 Jonathan Davies
5 Des Drummond
6 Iestyn Harris
7 Lee Briers
8 Adrian Morley
9 Michael Monaghan
10 Nick Fozzard
11 Mike Gregory (c)
12 Ben Westwood
13 Paul Sculthorpe
14 Allan Langer
15 Darren Burns
16 Paul Wood
17 Danny Nutley
6 out of the 17 in my all time team are members of the current squad.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Every now and then you get these threads about picking your all time Warrington teams, but now we've won back to back Challenge Cups it would be interesting to see who from the current squad gets into peoples teams.
The only criteria is that they are players you have seen play for Wire since you started watching. Judge them on their Wire performances, then put at the end the number out of 17 who are from the current squad...
1 Dave Lyon
2 Chris Hicks
3 Allan Bateman
4 Jonathan Davies
5 Des Drummond
6 Iestyn Harris
7 Lee Briers
8 Adrian Morley
9 Michael Monaghan
10 Nick Fozzard
11 Mike Gregory (c)
12 Ben Westwood
13 Paul Sculthorpe
14 Allan Langer
15 Darren Burns
16 Paul Wood
17 Danny Nutley
6 out of the 17 in my all time team are members of the current squad.'"
fozzard are you avin a laugh????
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| 1. Jonathan Davies
2. Chris Hicks
3. Alan Bateman
4. Matt King
5. Des Drummond
6. Lee Briers
7. Allan Langer
8. Adrian Morley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Les Boyd
11. Mike Gregory (C)
12. Benny Westwood
13. Paul Sculthorpe
Paul Wood
Bob Jackson
Iestyn Harris
Darren Burns
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9. M.Monaghan
10 L.Boyd
11. B.Jackson
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17. M.King
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| I should have included Brian Bevan as i seen him make a guest appearance in a testimonial which i think was Parry Gordon's, ive picked the wingers in the correct position they played for us.
1 Brian Johnson
2 Chris Hicks
3 Phil Blake
4 Jonathan Davies
5 John Bevan
6 John Woods
7 Allan Langer
8 Adrian Morley
9 Michael Monaghan
10 Les Boyd
11 Mike Gregory
12 Mark Roberts
13 Paul Sculthorpe
14 Iestyn Harris
15 Bob Eccles
16 Paul Wood
17 Les Davidson
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| 1 Brian Johnson
2 Des Drummond
3 Allan Bateman
4 Jonathan Davies
5 John Bevan
6 John Woods
7 Allan Langer
8 Adrian Morley
9 Kevin Tamati
10 Les Boyd (c)
11 Mike Gregory
12 Ben Westwood
13 Paul Sculthorpe
14 Phil Blake
15 Mark Roberts
16 Bob Jackson
17 Paul Wood
tough on Monaghan but with Langer and woods at 6 & 7 dont need owt flash at 9
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| 1..johnson
2..drummond
3..king
4..jiffy
5..j bevan
6..j woods
7..a gregory
8..morley
9..tamati
10..boyd
11..roberts
12..westwood
13..m gregory
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15..k kelly
16..b jackson
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9 - Mike Monaghan
10 - Danny Nutley
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| OK this is getting silly - editted 4 times so far .... bu99er!!
For once Sally, I commend you on your topic.... !
1 Steve Hesford goal kicking machine (castigate me but he just beats Lee Penny)
2. Chris Hicks
3 Allan Bateman
4 Jonathan Davies just wish he'd give up the beeb commentating..
5 Des Drummond
6 Alfie Langer
7 Greg Mackey amazing at 5' 4'' unbelivable
8 Adrian Morley
9 Michael Monaghan
10 Les Boyd (Except for when we played crap opposition when he wasn't interested.......)
11 Mike Gregory (c)
12 Bob Jackson
13 Paul Sculthorpe
14 Lee Briers
15 John Wood
16 Paul Wood
17 Ben Westwood
But really want to include John Woods, Darren Burns and Kevin Tamiti, the Martin Gleeson/Henry Fa'afili combo ........
Light on the bench - I know, but cetainly make my heart beat faster......
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Drummond
Blake
Davies
Hicks
Woods
Holden
Morley
Monaghan
Boyd
Gregory
Davidson
Sculthorpe
Briers
Jackson
Roberts
Westwood
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| Actually I've decided this is very difficult because the sport has changed incredibly over the last 20 years.
Jiffy and Bateman are my centres but against King and Senior ??
Size-wise it's a non starter - and King is really world class - but there's something about them pair that really is awe inspiring.
Bateman wan't known as 'Clamp' for nothing even though he was mayve 5'10''.
And Jiffy - well - you don't get Man Of Steel for nothing.....
Well done Sally great post.
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2 Des Drummond
3 Phil Blake
4 Johnathan Davies
5 John Bevan
6 John Woods
7 Andy Gregory
8 Adrian Morley
9 Duane Mann
10 Les Boyd
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12 Ben Westwood
13 Mike Gregory
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2. Chris Hicks
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4. Jonathan Davies
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6. Alex Murphy
7. Lee Briers
8. Adrian Morley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Les Boyd
11. Mike Gregory
12. Ben Westwood
13. Paul Sculthorpe
14. Allan Bateman
15. Ken Kelly
16. Kevin Tamati
17. Bob Jackson
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| Quote ="fes"Actually I've decided this is very difficult because the sport has changed incredibly over the last 20 years.
Jiffy and Bateman are my centres but against King and Senior ??
Size-wise it's a non starter - and King is really world class - but there's something about them pair that really is awe inspiring.
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Against King and Senior ??? check out his try for GB at Wembley he goes round Bradley clyde goes past Steve Renouf and Leaves Wendell Sailor in a different post code.....then rounds 6ft 3 Brett mullins for a try in the corner
he'd Make King and Senior look like clowns if he played next week....
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| Yeah Davies and Bateman would have had no problem in the modern game. They came over from RU as amateurs and a few months training in an RL environment and they were top RL centres, in an era when there were better centres around than there are today (eg Newlove, Bell, Gibbs). I reckon if you put Davies and Bateman in todays SL training schedules they would be the best 2 centres in SL today.
From the replies so far it seems like Morley and Westwood are in everybodys teams, and most people have Monaghan as well, and a lot of mentions for Hicks. When they are put alongside the other names that have come up it puts into context how these guys are going to be remembered as Wire legends.
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2. Drummond
3. Bateman
4. TKL
5. Hicks
6. Briers
7. Langar
8. Morley
9. Monas
10. Nutley
11. Jackson
12. Burns
13. Gregory
14. Westwood
15. Harris
16. Jackson
17. Sculthorpe
5/17 from current squad
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| Quote ="magic piano"
8. Morley
9. Monas
10. Nutley
11. Jackson
12. Burns
13. Gregory
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Are you sure that is the best pack you can create? When did you start watching?
PS Jackson is listed at 11 and on the bench.
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2. Drummond
3. Blake
4. Davies
5. Hicks
6. Briers
7. Langer
8. Morley
9. Monaghan
10. Boyd
11. Roberts
12. Westwood
13. Gregory
Subs:
14. Burns
15. Mann (Duane, not George!)
16. Bateman
17. Jackson
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2. D Drummond
3. M King
4. J Davies
5. C Hicks
6. A Johns
7. A Langer
8. L Boyd
9. M Monaghan
10. A Morley
11. M Roberts
12. M Gregory (C)
13. P Sculthorpe
14. B Westwood
15. P Blake
16. D Mann
17. K Tamati
18. B Jackson
19. L Davidson
20. N Vagana
21. L Briers
22. M Gleeson
23. A Gregory
24. B Johnston
25. K Shelford
That squad would win everything.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"1. I Harris
2. D Drummond
3. M King
4. J Davies
5. C Hicks
6. A Johns
7. A Langer
8. L Boyd
9. M Monaghan
10. A Morley
11. M Roberts
12. M Gregory (C)
13. P Sculthorpe
14. B Westwood
15. P Blake
16. D Mann
17. K Tamati
18. B Jackson
19. L Davidson
20. D Mann
21. L Briers
22. M Gleeson
23. A Gregory
24. B Johnston
That squad would win everything.'"
Like to see you keep that lot under the salary cap
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| Quote ="Wire in Ashton"Like to see you keep that lot under the salary cap
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mmmm...some 'creative accounting' required for sure!!
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| Quote ="Wires71"Are you sure that is the best pack you can create? When did you start watching?
PS Jackson is listed at 11 and on the bench.'"
wasn't thinking too hard at the time!!
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| Can't believe the great Duane Mann has only got 2 mentions so far (well done Pirate) and one of those was a sub. I was gutted when Duane left after 92/3. If he'd have stayed 1 more season, we'd have walked the league the following year, when we ended up finishing up on level points with Wigan/Bradford. Who did we have as hooker that season.....the legendary John Thursfield (...goes for a lie down in a darkened room, sobbing at the thought). IIRC, Duane was the club's top try scorer in his last season, not a bad achievement from hooker.
As for wingers, what a conundrum.
In my watching lifetime, I've had the pleasure to witness
John Bevan (my first sporting hero along with Ian Botham)
Dessie (he was playing for Leigh when I went to my first ever away game. The Leigh speccies would go beserk whenever he got the ball - frightening)
Fa'afili (never knock anyone that scores tries)
Hicks (an unbelievable finisher from within 10 yards of the line)
without even thinking about Henare and Penny (good luck for the future, Kev) who were both extremely entertaining.
As for second row, Mark Roberts gets in front of Les Davidson every time....test caps, SOO or not. What a devastating waste of such a brilliant talent. I was at the A team game when he made his comeback from injury...he limped ONTO the field. Don't think he ever played again
Full back...Brian Johnson, 10 times the player David Lyon ever was (sorry Lyon fans, and I like Lyon). Think Johnno only played 1 bad game for us, (v Wigan JPTrophy 85/6).
I'd be here all week regarding centres.
Even though we've won precious little over the last 30 years, we've been blessed with some FANTASTIC talent on our books.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Can't believe the great Duane Mann has only got 2 mentions so far (well done Pirate) and one of those was a sub. I was gutted when Duane left after 92/3. If he'd have stayed 1 more season, we'd have walked the league the following year, when we ended up finishing up on level points with Wigan/Bradford. Who did we have as hooker that season.....the legendary John Thursfield (...goes for a lie down in a darkened room, sobbing at the thought). IIRC, Duane was the club's top try scorer in his last season, not a bad achievement from hooker.
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I can't believe it myself....Mann was a world class hooker, arguably the best in the world at the time. And yes, if he had stayed an extra year then we would have cruised that title, as Thursfield was undoubtedly the weakest point of that side, which was carried massively by Jiffy. (How did a side with Teitzel at prop ever come so close to winning a title?).
Whilst Monaghan is a fine hooker, he is nowhere near what Mann was, both attacking and defensively.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Against King and Senior ??? check out his try for GB at Wembley he goes round Bradley clyde goes past Steve Renouf and Leaves Wendell Sailor in a different post code.....then rounds 6ft 3 Brett mullins for a try in the corner
he'd Make King and Senior look like clowns if he played next week....'"
I know what you mean, but it's a different game and far more structured now.
Defensively I think he may struggle but I know he always somehow seemed to come up with the goods in defence back in those days.
In attack - well awesome.
Remember the match against Saints when we were up 20-0 at half time and he was bombing Anthony Sullivan time and again giving Fozzie 3 tries. Amazing.
I'll never forget him virtually pushing Ellis out of the way to take up the no 6 position just so that he could bomb Sullivan again......and Fozzie scored again!!
Or against Fax in the cup when he scored 2 blinders (saw it on the Beeb).
Or against Keigthly when we played carp and we awful and he comes up with a totally off the cuff play to score - and we won with the last play of the game. On and on I could go!
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