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| At the birth of Superleague where did the name Wolves come from, and were there any other alternative contenders at the time?
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| I am happy to be stood corrected, but the wolf is part of the towns crest and was the reason for Warrington to become Warrington Wolves.
Of course, traditionalists will always refer to then as 'The Wires'
I have no idea if any other names were considered though...
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| Quote ="Big Ask"At the birth of Superleague where did the name Wolves come from, and were there any other alternative contenders at the time?'"
Cullen apparently.
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| A wolf was also on the club badge at the time (the one used between the town coat of arms and the current logo).
I can't recall if any other options were publicly mentioned.
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| Quote ="Ghost Rider"Of course, traditionalists will always refer to then as 'The Wires''"
Warrington were 'The Wire' not 'The Wires'
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| Prior to us becoming the wolves, hadn't we started to use a new 'badge' on some of the leiusre range that was the wolf's head profile from the centre of the town crest, in a barbed wire diamond.
I suppose it was a fairly simple move to become the Wolves from that. However, I wish we'd retained that original wolf head badge, as the new one is blooming awful - just too much complexity of detail in it to be striking
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| Heaven knows why we couldn't be The Warrington Wire/s.
Instead of wolfie we could have had some baffoon running round in a suit that resembled a piece of barbed wire.
Also all those tattoo enthusiasts would not have had to fork out for a new tattoo as the barbed wire tatts around their upper arms would suffice.
We have a sort of mixed identity as the old guard continue to use The Wire whilst the younger generation probably only know The Wolves. Its a shame because in time The Wire tag will die away and will be lost forever.
For me Warrington RLFC will always be The Wire and the 'Wolves' will just be a cheap gimmick brought about by Sky TV.
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| Quote ="Natters"Heaven knows why we couldn't be The Warrington Wire/s.
Instead of wolfie we could have had some baffoon running round in a suit that resembled a piece of barbed wire.
Also all those tattoo enthusiasts would not have had to fork out for a new tattoo as the barbed wire tatts around their upper arms would suffice.
We have a sort of mixed identity as the old guard continue to use The Wire whilst the younger generation probably only know The Wolves. Its a shame because in time The Wire tag will die away and will be lost forever.
For me Warrington RLFC will always be The Wire and the 'Wolves' will just be a cheap gimmick brought about by Sky TV.'"
Never Happen!
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| Quote ="Natters"Heaven knows why we couldn't be The Warrington Wire/s.
Instead of wolfie we could have had some baffoon running round in a suit that resembled a piece of barbed wire.
Also all those tattoo enthusiasts would not have had to fork out for a new tattoo as the barbed wire tatts around their upper arms would suffice.
We have a sort of mixed identity as the old guard continue to use The Wire whilst the younger generation probably only know The Wolves. Its a shame because in time The Wire tag will die away and will be lost forever.
For me Warrington RLFC will always be The Wire and the 'Wolves' will just be a cheap gimmick brought about by Sky TV.'" Hull KR are known as 'Rovers' and the 'Robins'. It isn;t an issue.
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| You very rarely here fans refer to us as Wolves. I personally hate it and seeing a lot more flags at Wembley with Wires rather than wolves gave my heart a nostalgic glow.
It could have been worse though, we could have been the Cheshire Wolves.
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| Reffy wrote "Warrington were 'The Wire' not 'The Wires'"
In fact, originally they were "The Wire-pullers" referring to the worker that did the wire-pulling in the wire industry.
Wire is drawn into longer and longer lengths and consequently smaller and smaller diameter by being pulled (either by hand or machine) through diamond or tugsten carbide dies with a hole in.
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| Helps the clubs with merchandise sales, especially with younger supporters.
The wolf was a combination of the town crest, and the The Wolf Pack season ticket scheme (already in existance at the time), plus I think Paul Cullen's role was in marketing at the time.
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| Quote ="Monmouth Wire"Cullen apparently.'"
Correct it was he that came up with the name. It was coincidence that a wolf head is in the Warrington crest
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| Quote ="wolfygirl"Correct it was he that came up with the name. It was coincidence that a wolf head is in the Warrington crest'"
Now forgive me if I'm wrong, but even without speaking to Mr Cullen himself, I would strongly think he would have drawn inspiration from the fact a wolf appeared on your logo already.
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| I guess Im a relative newbie (ten years) so may have a different view to others. I like the current badge and the wolves brand. Its relevant to the club given the wolf on the previous badge and the town crest. Its good from a marketing point of view as it raises the profile of the club and gives us a bit of a unique identity. Its a good way of selling the club to the kids.
I ilke the fact that the "wire" element is being kept alive by the fans and hasnt been hijacked by the any marketing men. Its a big piece of our history and I feel that we the fans "own it" so to speak.
I think we've got the balance spot on to be honest..
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| Quote ="Ulster Wire"I guess Im a relative newbie (ten years) so may have a different view to others. I like the current badge and the wolves brand. Its relevant to the club given the wolf on the previous badge and the town crest. Its good from a marketing point of view as it raises the profile of the club and gives us a bit of a unique identity. Its a good way of selling the club to the kids.
I ilke the fact that the "wire" element is being kept alive by the fans and hasnt been hijacked by the any marketing men. Its a big piece of our history and I feel that we the fans "own it" so to speak.
I think we've got the balance spot on to be honest..'"
SPOT ON!
We are called the Wolves by Telly/Media but the Wire or Wires will always be the clubs nick-name.
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| it was cullen who suggested wolves due to the fact it was on the towns crest
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| i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire, you still see some people wearing some of the baseball jackets and bench coats (syd packer i'm talking about you) and some of the old style caps, it's a good logo. And a possible alternate design me walking about wearing stuff with a little blue and yellow triangle all the time.
I would imagine a lot of the old school early 90's supporters would jump all over these. IIRC it had WARRINGTON with RLFC underneath it, wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to change that to WOLVES.
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| The wolf is taken from the Warrington Coat of Arms. The reason it was used in relation to the Wire is that the wolf was known to have roamed around the Wilderspool area.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire, you still see some people wearing some of the baseball jackets and bench coats (syd packer i'm talking about you) and some of the old style caps, it's a good logo. And a possible alternate design me walking about wearing stuff with a little blue and yellow triangle all the time.
I would imagine a lot of the old school early 90's supporters would jump all over these. IIRC it had WARRINGTON with RLFC underneath it, wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to change that to WOLVES.'"
Thats a good idea why not e-mail the club? Wouldn't like to see the old badge changed but a limited range of retro merchandise running alongside the existing kit would be great.
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| It was Cull who came up with the Wolves part, but i believe it was only noticed afterwards about the wolf on the town crest
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i know it's not in keeping with the 'brand' of warrington wolves, but it would be nice if the club would do a retro merchandise line using that logo/crest, the old wolf head surrounded by the barb wire,
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We've dealt with the 'Wolves' thing many times. Copyright can't be claimed in 'Wire, Wires, Wire-pullers' or anything so public-domain so if the club wants to maximise benefit from ads, sponsorship and merchandise they need a new logo/identity, hence Wolves. Legally its also probably not a good idea to market more than one 'official logo' - like the previous wolf head design, as this could be used by counterfeiters to claim that there is 'confusion in the public mind' as to the copyright status of 'insignia' and goodwill associated with the club.
All technical stuff, but vital to protect revenue, and we all want the club to maximise this, don't we?
An occasional foray into the past - such as the retro shirts - does not damage your rights, but you have to be careful because there are some right villains out there.
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| Quote ="Natters"For me Warrington RLFC will always be The Wire and the 'Wolves' will just be a cheap gimmick brought about by Sky TV.'"
Agreed. I absolutely hate it.
Fair enough the gimmick worked for Bradford Bulls and Leeds Rhinos - their fans do seem to like it - but I have NEVER heard a chant of "Come on you Wolves" or anything similar from our fans and I hope I never do. The only place in England I'd expect to hear that is Molineux (or a Wolverhampton Wanderers away end at another ground for the pedants!)
We are Warrington RLFC and our nickname is The Wire.
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| The kids supporters club was called the Wolf Pack long before the super league era so not sure if PC should be getting the credit.
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| Quote ="Langer7"The kids supporters club was called the Wolf Pack long before the super league era so not sure if PC should be getting the credit.'" Wasn't that when PC was doubling up in a role as commercial manager though? Think it was the early 90's.
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