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| Im sorry, i realise the stats on James Graham read impressively however i am not convinced that he deserves such praise as "best prop in world" which i have heard and read on a few occasions. It may well just be me but i wonder if the same would be said if JG were playing for a Middle of the league team. When you look at the damage that the likes of Morley and Carvell cause, both on and off the ball, JG all of a sudden doesnt look so good?
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| mozz is a counrty mile better than graham end ov chat
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| World class.
Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
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| Quote ="st ives"mozz is a counrty mile better than graham end ov chat'" and moz gets up and gets on with it.
remember when bailey ran into him moz went down but got up straght away it was bailey who went missing after that.
graham better than moz ?dont make me laugh
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| Pudding ? No!
World Class ? Yes!
Big Girls Blouse ? Yes!
Ginger ? Definitely!
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| I wouldnt call someone world class until they go and mix it up in the NRL. I think Graham could make it in the NRL.
Graham is a class player and I would have him at Wire in a heart beat. People on here consider him overrated because of who he plays for.
Would I have him over Morley? No. Because I have seen the impact Morley has at Warrington and would be specualting on whether Graham could do the same.
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| I think Jammer was the only British player to feature in those international RL awards given out last season. He featured as prop. So I guess there is a chance the NRL folks also rate him highly. He's also just broken an SL record for metres made, so I suppose that says something about his style and effort. Different players for different teams. Maybe Jammer wouldn't work as well in a Wire side, maybe he would. It depends what you want out of a prop. I wouldn't want him to leave Saints not for any amount of money. He's one of our key players who all fans value very highly.
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| Quote ="Herbie90"Im sorry, i realise the stats on James Graham read impressively however i am not convinced that he deserves such praise as "best prop in world" which i have heard and read on a few occasions. It may well just be me but i wonder if the same would be said if JG were playing for a Middle of the league team. When you look at the damage that the likes of Morley and Carvell cause, both on and off the ball, JG all of a sudden doesnt look so good?'"
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| not in same class as moz .
never has bin
never will be . FACT.
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| Quote ="Hicksy"not in same class as moz .
never has bin
never will be . FACT.'"
do you mean when he played for sydney roosters or leeds?
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| Quote ="chris_joynt's_barber"do you mean when he played for sydney roosters or leeds?'"
why were he good then as well?
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| nowhere near best in the world. the only way to find that out is to go over there and do it like morley did. but he is defo the best in this league at this moment in time
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| Quote ="st ives"mozz is a counrty mile better than graham end ov chat'"
when morley was in his prime he was better than graham now.. but bot now. he does not do enough work
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| Quote ="mallyjnr"when morley was in his prime he was better than graham now.. but bot now. he does not do enough work'"
wake up child
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| Quote ="mallyjnr"when morley was in his prime he was better than graham now.. but bot now. he does not do enough work'"
I cant be classed as bias because I hate both Warrington and saints. But lets not kid ourselves, even now as a Wigan fan I would take Morley over Graham any day of the week. His experience and longevity needs to be respected, lets see how Graham would fair down under before we build him up. For my money he would get bitch slapped all over.
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| I think James Graham is one of the best props in the world at the moment. If he carries that on at the rate he is going he will join Morley and Peacock as one of the greatest british props of the SL Era.
It would be interesting to see if he could provide the same influence on another SL team.
He got the treatment at headingley. If he can carry the Saints front row to a Sl title this year he will deserve every accolade he gets.
He has played a lot of rugby over the last few years and he could end up playing in the four nations.
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| James Graham is one of the best prop forwards in the game. However his bad sportsmanship and his attitude after last nights game, let him down. Shame though as he is one heck of a player.
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| Graham is outstanding. Morley is still a great player, but it's easier for him as he can have a spell on the bench when he requires it as Warrington have other props.
At times this season Graham has been totally on his own out there and has smashed the record for metres made to pieces. That is what your props are there to do and he does it fantastically well, his 2 or 3 drives per set remove so much workload from the other players, without Graham Saints would be mid table or worse, like Warrington are.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I have to Say James Graham is currently not near the standard of Morley or Peacock.....
and when You consider the $hit Big Eorl Crabtree gets, who takes it like a true pro (how many times has morley Smashed him now )then Graham is starting to look like a bit stupid and the Aussies wont need any invitations to get in someones face ask Stuart Feilden.......
didnt Eorl crabtree recently say he finds it funny that everyone tries to smash him just because of his size.........Note To James Graham Big Eorl finds it funny...!!! you should try it you bleedin Mard ar$e'"
Hilarious thread, and i'm sure i'll get told i'm biting but who cares.
Would Morley have made the same impact if he was the only prop on the field for 70 minutes like Jammer is? He has the luxury or going off, as he did in the final at Wembley where he played maybe half. He has the luxury of Carvell at his side, who has been very good this year.
The stats don't lie and Graham's are sensational.
I find it amusing that you wouldn't want Graham because he refused to shake hands, which is understandable considering they were trying to deliberately dislocate his shoulder and rip his head off.
That said, i think Morley will get the MOS this year.
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