There is a letter in this weeks issue querying why Hull FC have replaced "Old Faithful" with chants about *anky *arrington. Could I provide the answer ..

1 "Old Faithful" contains rather a lot of words which are too much for the modern day FC fan to remember in one go.

2. It is important that these words are sung in a specific order. Once this was no problem, but nowadays *anky *arrington only has two words and, it doesn't matter if they get them the wrong way round .... which they frequently do.

3. Most importantly though, after the first line ..."Old Faithful" opposing fans, and especially Rovers fans, join in with "You'll never win at Wembley". Try it and see next time you play them. his cuts them deep and really gets up their noses so they no longer take the risk.

What has this got to do with the letter



The guy in question was disgusted about the fact the FC fans walked through Tesco singing songs containing swear words when family's are trying to do the shopping.
Old Faithful was mentioned in about two sentences but this wasn't the reason for his letter.

I was disgusted by the fact that Warrington fans sang songs on a plane to Barcelona containing swear words when families were trying to go on holiday.

Although i wasn't on that plane, i agree that's disgraceful.

I hope you don't swear at the games then.

I must be honest i arrived outside the club shop just as the coach arrived containing said fans.
i had my 8 year old son Boyd with me, who on hearing the chants piped up with "are all people from Hull stupid"?

to which i replied "it appears so, son"

No, never have, never will.

That's pretty impressive. I'm a potty mouth.

i dont like hull fc fans. trouble makers spoiling for a fight.

You seemed the quite and shy type the other week or was that just a front

Is your brain just a complex network or pigeon holes ?

The innocence of youth

no need to be like that is there m8. pls dont hide behind your comp giveing out insults.

I was hardly going to offer you a volley of abuse because you came over and said Hello. That would have been incredibly rude.

I half expected it, if Wolfette wasn't there i reckon you may have gone for me

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How is it an insult ? Read again. I was merely commenting on the fact that you'd pigeon holed every single Hull fan as a trouble maker, looking for a fight, when in reality, it'll be a small minority, the rest made up of folk like you & I.

Ok yeah your right. but its that small minority that are giveing there fans a bad reputation on the whole.

Sure. They aren't my favourites. Lets not forget though ace, we've our own batch of unsavoury characters that cause their fair sure of trouble at away grounds.

Defo, but I wasn't going to start anything with a bloke & his Mrs.

Before we start calling Hull fans hooligans, let us all see if our semi final against the pie boys passes off without any trouble. I didn't attend the last one due to my daughters christening, but heard reports of a lot of unsavoury incidents. Every club has a small number of idiotic fans, it's just that hull's turn up most weeks and ours come out for big games like semi finals and finals. Hence why we don't seem to have as bad a reputation as we had in the 80s.

Like Warringtons (and most clubs then)

lets be honest here, your reputation is poor at best. i am not allowed to stand in the west stand when you visit, there are only a handfull of teams that the club/ police enforce that policy! and it's usually due to space restrictions rather than potential for trouble.

the police presence was higher than any other visiting club

I think its a general Hull thing.

They are the nicest of people. Every time we go Hull on the coach there must be 20 or so different people (some not even rugby attached) who put a v up to welcome you to the city. Nice.

not realy.

i seem to remember your fans invadeing your pitch ripping the post down.

you have football fans mixing with your rugby fans going to away games with intentions of provoking home fans. iv seen it at games and also on sky.

think a few got banned.

in defence of folk from hull at the kr QF i went in boozer down the road from ground and everyone was friendly up for a chat about the game etc. and on my way home from game on sunday on train with fair few fc fans everyone was in good, friendly spirits despite the result