In the reserves we have some talented lads coming through, lets take our chance whilst we cant do much worse and get these kids through. if we find only one star i would prefer that than buying overated and overpaid so called superstars. Been watching reserves and acadamy and these lads play for little or no money and put in 110% effort, they have my vote. example a good winger in the reseves the welsh lad plus a new big lad has appeared playing at stand off, lets give the reserves its chance, thats what Saints do and Leeds, losing with the kids would be a pleasure to watch as the effort is there. You can see that Penny has all the enthusiasm if not the skills yet, give me that anyday and i will happily pay my money and cheer them on.

the problem is that no one would hear you cos of the booing.

by the way been watching the Wire and resrves for years, read this board often it keeps me entertained. Never felt like posting till now. Just all the talk of who we should get misses me off, why do we have john bastian and squad builder if we want to go out and buy Brough and myler type players we have our own, LETS USE THEM........

I agree with your sentiments but do you believe that we have enough to make the step up.

You're right Billinge. We don't.

Not totally sure on that billinge but if you dont try we will never no, often out of adversity comes greatness. can some of our stars step up to the plate , the last 2 games say not, so what do we have to lose. it might shake the others upa bit .

You could bring a few in...

Murphy to full back, Hicks back on the wing, try a half back if you want and it might work for one game but consistency wouldn't be there. McCarthy of course.

Chester wire thats my point no the whole team but a 3 or 4 its a great opportunity this season now to have a go, who knows the next Andrew Johns could be lurking in there.

We've already got Penny, Mitchell, Harrison who were not first choice 17 at the start of the season remember.

Yes but we have seen them perform 1st team last season.. someone new for the so called supporters to berate!

It's a great idea, but they would simply be crushed, their confidence broken by the weight of abuse and cynicism from our, to use the term very loosely indeed, supporters.

Good point david but we could fit them with ear muffs.

I have watched the reserves and academy for some years. We have the talent there. We have a great prospect halfback in O'Brien, great kicking game and vision at the line. Hurst has been superb at fullback and Rhys Williams has impressed on the wing and there are many more. The U18's too have some great players that could feature in the future. My only worry would be the boo boo fans, who can not see the long term picture. Investment in these youngsters and support and encouragement would pay. There are no quick fixes. The other benefit is that alot of these players are warrington born and bred and would most definitely wear the shirt with pride and not for the money as some seem to do now. We have talent across the board, second rowers, halfback, fullback and centres. If you mixed this blend of new and exciting talent with all thier enthuisiuam with the seasoned experienced player I feel you would have something worth watching, even if the results took time to come.

give it a go, anything is worth a shot at the moment!

Yeahh just give erm' a chance, everyone understood when we played all the young one's in 07 and got smashed by Leeds, knowone booed, it was quite the oppisite

How times have changed........

Hurst is a centre.

And a very good one from what i have seen.

Keep faith with the youngsters and give them a chance defintley nothing for you to loose now. We did it when we were getting hammered and they gave a good showing of themself's and now they are coming good i.e Adamson 21, Myler 18, Turner 20, Ratchford 20, Walton 18 , Thornley 20 and Sidlow 21 all played or are playing regular 1st team rugby this year

I trust Tony Smith, John Bastian, Richard Marshall, Gary Chambers et all to make the right decisions.

Harrison 21, Mitchell 20, Blythe 20, Riley, 21, Cooper 20, Penny 21.

sorry you are right Hurst is a centre and quite right he is a great one. I meant to say Murphy at fullback, he also is a great prospect. Give them a run out I say and they will benefit for the experience.

As I say, trust in those in charge - past records show they know what they are doing. And as others have said, we already have our best youngsters in the squad and we are still not winning. The step up from reserves to SL is pretty big, so needs to be handled carefully.

Clearly its one of those situations that needs perfect timing - or injury crisis of course. Penny provides the perfect example of not rushing a young lad too quickly so to speak. After a great start he began to show his lack of experience and as usual our fans showed no patience in letting him grow in experience. Mistakes will come with the young uns due to lack of SL match play. That said our 'experienced' guys didn't do that much better.

I agree with those of you who suggest Smith and co know when to bite the bullet and give a young lad a go. At the moment the ones who have earned that trust are indeed playing - as mentionned.

This is why I did clap at the end of Monday's game. I clapped Harrison for his continuous hard work and support play, I clapped Blythe who found a few gaps. I also clapped the likes of Westwood who as usual ran his blood to water.

If I were involved with the training of the youth lot I wouldn't pick them at the mo. The booing is enough to put any young kid off the game full stop. Even our seasoned players don't have that hard a skin.

Invariably youngsters are introduced when a team is in a rich vein of form, it enables the senior players to carry them through without too much pressure. Putting them in at the minute would drain them of confidence almost immedialtely. An experienced player like King had his confidence shot to pieces, what would a youngster's be like?