It's a quote from an NFL coach which I believe relates well to our current situation, some of you will think it's crap, =red(not acceptable G) and you're entitled to your opinion...see what you think.

"One thing that could be a problem is breaking old habits. It's not that you don't understand what the new responsibilities or plays are, but just the fact that you've been doing something a long time and you're kind of used to doing it, it's a habit, and that's not what's required in the other system and that means kind of undoing something before you can even start to do something new.”

What would be good for warrington is a crowd of only 4000 so half the nobbers wouldn't be there and decent people getting behind our team giving them confidence

I wouldn't want to play in front of 'our lot' at the moment

Good post but please watch your language

drop the players that dont perform simple as , like to see some youth in the squad for friday , at least they will give effort

If I put that sort of effort into my job, I would get fired. If there is simply NO effort from the team, why should the fans put their money and time to watch drivel?

There was enough effort today.

well said

Not from what I heard.

My point exactly.

Which is exactly why I stayed at home, because I knew what I was expecting........complete and utter dross.

the team have been shocking this season but guess what so have we the fans

bad fans make bad teams
e.g. Newcastle United

Depends on your expectations of enough effort I suppose

were u watching a different game today because i seen no effort


just one man rugby from us ..

Maybe enough was a bot of a reach, but there wasn't like there was no effort.

Fans can only do so much if the players don't want to know, why should we bother?

Of course there was effort today - from the forwards and the out backs, but the pivotal positions of half backs are not filled by anyone with any skill or aptitude unless Briers is having one of his good days.
The forwards must be cursing Monahan.

You didn't.

The Newcastle fan's arent bad at all, they where exactly right in that big gob was making decisions that would have a negetive effect on the team.

Keegan should have been given complete control over the team and signings and gobby should never have brought his mate wise in.

I guarantee that had they not Newcastle would not be where they are now.

Did you get off on the wrong junction mate ? try junction 7 mate

The effort was definitely there. What cost us the game today was terrible errors in terrible positions ie just inside our own half when starting an attack, or near our own line. Another problem is that we seem clueless, absolutely clueless, in attack when Briers doesnt play. I think we would have beaten salford with Briers and i also think we would have done today as we would have taken our chances, and we had more than enough chances to win the game today.

I'm not prepared to drive nearly 10 miles and knowing that my team would lose. The reasons why I didn't get a season ticket was purely finanical reasons now that I'm a bit healthier financially I'm prepared to go to the odd game however I'm not due to the lack of effort on the pitch.

I work nearly 40 hours a week, I'd like to see the players do that much work in a week as I do. I'm not even well paid.

Spot on - there was plenty of effort out there today - anyone who says differnt must not have been there. Just no half backs to execute plays.

Fair play to Cas - they played some good rugby but had two halfbacks and loose forward with good hands - makes all the difference. The pack must be wondering what they have to do.

I wonder how many Salford fans had the same ideas today?

How do you know the players aren't working at it, you don't go the game, you don't go the training.

try 200 mate

You try having my finianical situation and you would see why I'm not prepared to go to matches.