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| I'm interested to know which name you look for first in a squad? Mine is Williams, then Vaughan
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'm interested to know which name you look for first in a squad? Mine is Williams, then Vaughan'"
Similar for me although I'd be tempted to throw Dufty and Fitzgibbon in there at the moment.
An interesting thought - if last week was an audition (based on form on the day) for the final prop spot then there is an argument that both Wood and Bullock get in ahead of Musgrove. It won't happen but I thought they were both better last week.
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"Similar for me although I'd be tempted to throw Dufty and Fitzgibbon in there at the moment.
An interesting thought - if last week was an audition (based on form on the day) for the final prop spot then there is an argument that both Wood and Bullock get in ahead of Musgrove. It won't happen but I thought they were both better last week.'"
I`m hoping that Musgrove is one of those players who have an average1st season in Superleague, then come to terms with the different style of the game, living on the other side of the World etc and then shows a big improvement in their second season.
Otherwise he is a waste of a Quota spot.
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"Similar for me although I'd be tempted to throw Dufty and Fitzgibbon in there at the moment.
An interesting thought - if last week was an audition (based on form on the day) for the final prop spot then there is an argument that both Wood and Bullock get in ahead of Musgrove. It won't happen but I thought they were both better last week.'"
Just talking with someone that as met Musgrove a few times and he was telling me how big he is close up. So got me thinking he does not make nothing like the metres made after impact Harrison and Vaughan do.
On Bullock he is a bit of an enigma to me, can’t nail down a regular 17 spot but gets a contract extension hmm.
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| INOUT Quote ="karetaker"Dufty
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Bullock or Wood or Holroyd for final spot think Ratchford will 18th man'"
Crowthers one of my favourite players but i wouldn't pick him this week, unless it was in place of Musgrove.
Holroyd deserves his spot and Bullock played his way on to the bench last week. Wood was in serious pain so doesn't make the squad for me, it's not worth the risk.
I'm not a fan of what Musgrove brings to the table each week, but he hasn't played his way out of the team, he's just a very Average steady eddie.
Bench for me is
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The starting 13 is exactly the same as you though
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| Wrench, Musgrove, Ratch and Wood to miss out for me. Wrench had a stinker last week, Wood didn't seem anywhere near right with whatever he had, and I just don't think Musgrove or Ratch are worth their spot. Bullock was immense last week and Holroyd runs his blood to water.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Crowthers one of my favourite players but i wouldn't pick him this week, Holroyd deserves his spot and Bullock played his way on to the bench last week. Wood was in serious pain so doesn't make the squad for me
I'm not a fan of what Musgrove brings to the table each week, but he hasn't played his way out of the team, he's just a very Average steady eddie.
Bench for me is
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The starting 13 is exactly the same as you though
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So Crowther doesn't deserve to keep his place but Musgrove does even though you admit he is average?? Crowther puts in a massive amount of work and has done all year, not really fair to drop him.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"So Crowther doesn't deserve to keep his place but Musgrove does even though you admit he is average?? Crowther puts in a massive amount of work and has done all year, not really fair to drop him.'"
Going off how Burgess has picked his team each week no he doesn't. Crowther has missed 2 games now so he doesn't have a place to keep does he, and as Burgess has shown nobody just steps back in to the team unless it's to replace someone who's had a bad game.
Bullock deserves his spot and so does Holroyd, Musgrove didn't do anything wrong and Burgess clearly likes him.
If Bullock didn't have the game he did last week Crowther would take the bench spot, but Bullock put in a big display so deserves to keep his spot, and Holroyd had a great game so deserves his spot.
You can't expect Crowther to simply step back in after 2 weeks out.
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| i can. i reckon he's been rested with a view to being reyt for wembley
holroyd had a great game, but crowther has been having those games every week for most of this year
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| Quote ="Or thane"Going off how Burgess has picked his team each week no he doesn't. Crowther has missed 2 games now so he doesn't have a place to keep does he, and as Burgess has shown nobody just steps back in to the team unless it's to replace someone who's had a bad game.
Bullock deserves his spot and so does Holroyd, Musgrove didn't do anything wrong and Burgess clearly likes him.
If Bullock didn't have the game he did last week Crowther would take the bench spot, but Bullock put in a big display so deserves to keep his spot, and Holroyd had a great game so deserves his spot.
You can't expect Crowther to simply step back in after 2 weeks out.'"
Fair point on not having a place to retain as oppose to regain, but Crowther hasn't played because he wasn't fit. Burgess said in an interview a couple days ago that Crowther is now fit from his shoulder issue and actually indicated in one quote that he would play...
“We’re fully fit. Nothing’s changed. Jordy Crowther is alright – he’ll play,” he said.
You'll get heaps more out of Crowther than you would out of Musgrove.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Fair point on not having a place to retain as oppose to regain, but Crowther hasn't played because he wasn't fit. Burgess said in an interview a couple days ago that Crowther is now fit from his shoulder issue and actually indicated in one quote that he would play...
“We’re fully fit. Nothing’s changed. Jordy Crowther is alright – he’ll play,” he said.
You'll get heaps more out of Crowther than you would out of Musgrove.'"
you would, unfortunately, we do need some size, even if its not playing top of its game.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Fair point on not having a place to retain as oppose to regain, but Crowther hasn't played because he wasn't fit. Burgess said in an interview a couple days ago that Crowther is now fit from his shoulder issue and actually indicated in one quote that he would play...
“We’re fully fit. Nothing’s changed. Jordy Crowther is alright – he’ll play,” he said.
You'll get heaps more out of Crowther than you would out of Musgrove.'"
Oh 100% mate, As i say Crowthers one of, if not my favourite player but i'm thinking of how the squad has been picked all season. If i was to just pick my bench and ignore previous picks, my bench would be
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I think the work rate Crowther brings and the fact he can cover Loose, 2nd Row and prop is superb.
I hope he does make the bench but i think it would be at Holroyds expense rather than Musgrove.
I think maybe if Bullock had hit the ground running from day one, Maybe Musgrove wouldn't have had as many games this season?
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| With a game that could be won on goal kicks ,can Ratchford reasonably not play?
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| Quote ="ninearches"With a game that could be won on goal kicks ,can Ratchford reasonably not play?'"
I like Ratchford but Thewlis' kick percentage has improved a lot recently.
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| Quote ="ninearches"With a game that could be won on goal kicks ,can Ratchford reasonably not play?'"
If we played Ratchford anywhere in our back-line, he will be targeted and exploited by Wigan.
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| I am pretty sure Musgrove will play. He is big, very experienced and perhaps a bit more motivated with silverware on offer.
It sounds as though Crowther is fit again and on the basis of his workaholic contributions this year I would expect him to play.
Bullock had a good game on his last outing but his defence worries me. He tends to be a bit flat footed. And why has he just managed to turn his performance up a notch a third of the way through the season ?
Holroyd still needs to put on muscle as he is a bit too light taking the ball up. His tackling however is really motoring and Im looking forward to seeing him next year.
So for me, it's a toss up between leaving Holroyd or Bullock out of the 17. My guess is that Holroyd will drop out, but who knows ?
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| Quote ="Or thane"Going off how Burgess has picked his team each week no he doesn't. Crowther has missed 2 games now so he doesn't have a place to keep does he, and as Burgess has shown nobody just steps back in to the team unless it's to replace someone who's had a bad game.
Bullock deserves his spot and so does Holroyd, Musgrove didn't do anything wrong and Burgess clearly likes him.
If Bullock didn't have the game he did last week Crowther would take the bench spot, but Bullock put in a big display so deserves to keep his spot, and Holroyd had a great game so deserves his spot.
You can't expect Crowther to simply step back in after 2 weeks out.'"
It was a shoulder injury for Crowther but you are right regarding going straight back into the team. Wrench is in that position now of waiting for his chance again. Under Price and most definitely Powell (Mata’utia) they would go straight back in regardless of form or not.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I like Ratchford but Thewlis' kick percentage has improved a lot recently.'"
Spoken with a few people who think he should play for his goal kicking being that it’s a final. Where would you play him he is not going to replace current centres and other options well the player are doing well there to which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.
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| Quote ="karetaker"which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.'"
Not least because, if he was picked for his goal kicking, he'd need to be on the field all of the time.
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| Crowther will be straight back in to the 17. Burgess loves him.
The team picks itself IMO. The only question mark is Wood or Bullock on the bench and I think he'll go with Bullock.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Spoken with a few people who think he should play for his goal kicking being that it’s a final. Where would you play him he is not going to replace current centres and other options well the player are doing well there to which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.'"
Yeah I agree with you. If Thewlis had not improved his kicking then there would be a case for Ratch over Tai.
Just watch Thewlis shank a vital one tomorrow
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yeah I agree with you. If Thewlis had not improved his kicking then there would be a case for Ratch over Tai.
Just watch Thewlis shank a vital one tomorrow
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For evidence of shanking a vital one under pressure, I refer you to the kick that would have given Stef the world record! Shows that it can happen to even the best.
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