Thoughts?

Great addition and appointment to me.

Possible part of job description;

Almost an independent 2nd head to assess worth of risky signings like McGuire or who we could get in his place to assist Big Sam.

A level head to assess the interest of a fringe youngster, that previously under DP would have been just shipped out on loan or threw under a bus. Taking care of the well being and assessing the best options for that player.

I’d be interested to see his responsibilities and who he reports in to who has the most weight in the players we sign, Burgess / Chambers / Middleton / KFP.

I think he has done a decent job with the youth structure and whenever I hear him speak he comes across as open, honest and someone who would demand respect. I think it’s a good appointment and a role that’s needed, i’d just like to know more on what he will be doing and how the roles fits in to the structure of the club.

Perhaps it’s a working progression. The club may not wholly know themselves yet.

It is what we’ve needed for a long time. You want your coaching and philosophy to work throughout the club. Youth development and the First Team seemed like separate entities.

Other clubs are able to put youngsters in and it looks like they’ve been in the 1st team for years.

Solid relationships are required in the community, especially with amateur clubs. Gary has done a lot of work while Head Of Youth and I’m sure that will get even stronger.

Recruitment and retention has been all over the place so hopefully Gary is able to greatly improve that area. Players should only be brought in if they are able to make a big difference, we need to have more trust in the players we have developed ourselves.

Happy with the appointment.. However, who was doing this sort of work before? Powell? Fitzpatrick?

Who are we taking work away from here?

I believe it was Fitzpatrick and they would then speak to the board and coach.

Karl can now concentrate more on off field stuff like why is our stadium dirty, rusty and even damaged in places. Also try and get a decent kit supplier so items are actually available in the club shop.

happy days

Very happy with this, hopefully he will help keep us level rather than leaning too far one way or the other

If Burgess does want to come here as a stepping stone to an NRL job (which is fine), we need some continuity in the recruitment and planning of the squad, from bringing in overseas players to domestic recruitment and bringing players through the Academy. It can't just be a case of "replace Powell's squad and bring in Burgess' squad". So if we have a more permanent presence as DoR that should enable more continuity and let the coach focus on just coaching the first team squad and not worry so much about the overall planning of the club's future.

He's already telling Chambers things he wants doing with the youth side already so he clearly wants to change things at a base level. Never heard Price or Powell talking about the youth side development plans, so this coukd be the Golden ticket for the Future, fingers crossed

If burgess does end up being successful and leaves after 2 or 3 seasons for better things I'd rather gary Chambers be planning for a suitable successor than KFP, leave him to the silly gimmicks.

I would prefer that KFP and GC work independently from each other and report direct to Middleton/The Board.
That would make more sense to me than GC reporting to KF. Does anyone know which way round it actually is?

Gonna stick up for Price here. He came and looked at the structure at the time and wanted it to mimic the NRL path. What (if anything) changed while he was here I don't know, but we have seen some better prepared youth players come through IMO. I think that side of things is Price's forte. He's getting a good rep down under, and turned us halfway into a Wane-style against-the-odds team who played better when we had the stars out injured. Maybe he just couldn't sort out the soft culture?

The demands of the club need to change is the bottom line & higher standards need to be set . We have too many comfort zone players ,happy to amble about on the pitch ,knowing the fans will clap them off at the end & be back the week after.

I mean this is what Powell was supposedly brought in to change but it seemed like he ruffled feathers and the players were never really on board with him.

What changed at Warrington for Price was the meddling in player recruitment & retention by the board.

Both Price & KFP said "No" to signing Latu, but SM over ruled them both and signed him anyway. That's when SM agreed to never get involved again in player recruitment.

The same happened with the extension handed to Sita by other members of the board including KFP. Hence why Price played him on the wing in one of the games to send a message.

which SM

Powell ruffled the wrong players feathers in some cases, but not all in my opinion. Ie, Mulhern who got way too big for his boots with his new contract demands. But I'm hoping Chambers understands the club & squad better and will target the correct players. Two in particular have already faced the 'hairdryer' (not to be posted on this board though)

Simon Moran

Really don't understand why you'd be poking your nose into signing/re-signing players and going over the head of your coach and CEO. If Latu and Sita were his decisions then thank heavens he's taken a step back.

Interesting to hear about Mulhern, you can't imagine any players getting too arrogant with Sam in charge.

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So basically you are saying that various board members, at various times, have made player recruitment decisions independent of, and in opposition to, the wishes of the coach at the time.

May I ask.

1. Does this extend to young players being sent out on loan/exile ?
2. When did this stop (if it has)?

All I care about is..............who signed dudson???

If only Moran had ordered a cappuccino instead of a latte during that particular meeting, that misunderstanding could have been avoided.

I'm not much of a gambler but I would stick quite a bit on the two who copped it both have a surname beginning with the same letter?