https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/20 ... e-broncos/ Good on him. Didn't like seeing him at one of our rivals. Give him a few years there then back at Wire as head coach?

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/20 ... e-broncos/ Good on him. Didn't like seeing him at one of our rivals. Give him a few years there then back at Wire as head coach?

“I keep catching myself thinking – I’m a St Helens fan through and through and I worked at Warrington for 25 years, but this (Wigan) is the place that has genuinely grabbed me without a shadow or a doubt. This place is something special and I’ll hold this dear to my heart.”

Sounds like we were just an employer, no special memories.....

He'll be Brisbane through and through in 6 months time. I've no problem with him going to Wigan after we didn't offer him a job and I'd no problem with him celebrating Wigan tries against us but the drum-banging at our ground was classless from him and Wigan and will forever stick in my craw. He's no Denis Law.

We are sounding like a jealous ex girlfriend. Wish him all the best, he owes us nothing nor we him.

It's like Robinson Crusoe had been marooned at Warrington and he's finally found civalization at Wigan again. And to celebrate this, he's tidied up his beard and general appearance.

Boys let it go!

An ex Warrington player who did really well for us has got a new job....good luck to him (and so what?)

Sounds like a great opportunity for him and for any young halfback prospect over there who wants to learn from a player who improved throughout his career and became a complete master of the art during his prime years.

The greatest Wire player of my lifetime without any doubt.

Big call that. Above all these or are you skewing for longevity?

Langer
Woods
Johns
Morley
Blake
Davies
Gregory

How can Johns be the greatest wire player? 3 games? And he was crap in 2 of them!

I interpreted as "greatest RL player to ever pull on a Wire jersey". That's how.

No Boyd he was the best of the lot for me..which Gregory do you mean Mike or Andy..

Greg Mackey for me.

Few others missed off the list:

Latu
GI
Luther
Tyrone
Big Roy

Not sure I can go along with Lee Briers being rated as a top coach all of a sudden. He had plenty of time here to demonstrate his coaching credentials but, as admittedly an outsider, they are quite difficult to identify.
He always seemed to be subservient to Price whenever I saw him and he has worked with the Academy with limited success.
At Wigan, both he and Peet have benifited with Bevan French and Jai Field both being on fire at the same time with little need for coaching ability.
Then again my view might have been clouded by seeing him beat the Wigan drum and admit he has always been a Saints supporter.

Fair to say he's [ireinvented himself [/i.
He last pulled a Wire jersey on, nearly a decade ago.
We move him to a coaching capacity, and he goes through the motions, for the best part of that decade.
He moves on, and helps transform Wigan from dull as ####, to easy on the eye. And now he's headhunted to Australia.

Maybe our last two coaches held him back?

Maybe but that doesn’t reflect well on himself. Perhaps should have backed himself to get a job elsewhere rather than take a backseat and take the money.

Who'd've employed him at that time, at a role higher than the one we gave him???....no one.

When he's sunning himself in Brisbane next year I wonder if he will look back at Warrington and think of what he missed out on by leaving us, when we're in the Championship going to places like Dewsbury and Barrow and he will think "I could have been part of that"

Hard to disagree with Lefty's observations. Harry Smith has been completely transformed. You would have to imagine most of that will be down to Briers. He is going to be tough to replace. There aren't many former top class half back coaches knocking around. Sean Long maybe, but he is thicker than a Victorian toilet.

I'm counting overall contribution to Wire.

If its "who is the best RL player who played at some point for Wire" then Johns.

If its "who played at the highest level in a Wire jersey" then Davies.

Bobby Fulton was head and shoulders above Andrew Johns and Jonathon Davies, as good as they were. The closest in style I have seen to Fulton was Chris Sandow, but Fulton carried that standard throughout his career.

He was a Stockton Heath lad as well.

Yeah I think the caveat of Sally was "in their lifetime". Fulton is a great shout with 16 games for the wire in 1969/70.

Maybe our toxic atmosphere and the bad apples held him back?

Or he learnt so much here that just a year top up at Wigan has now seen him get an NRL gig...

As mentioned Boyd hands down followed closely by Bob Jackson + Mike Gregory.