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| Yeah I know, only 3 games into this season but I would imagine there is going to be some really significant turnover in our squad at the end of this season. Likely outgoings presumably include Widdop, Austin, Inglis, Akauola, Clark J, Clark D (NRL possibly) and Hill (Leigh possibly) at least. That's a lot of experience and an equally large chunk of salary cap. Leaves Powell with a number of promising youngsters and plenty of current first teamers but plenty of gaps to fill too. It will be interesting to watch the comings and goings.
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| i was going to do a thread with the expiring contracts, to see whom people would like to keep or release,
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i was going to do a thread with the expiring contracts, to see whom people would like to keep or release,'"
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"Yeah I know, only 3 games into this season but I would imagine there is going to be some really significant turnover in our squad at the end of this season. Likely outgoings presumably include Widdop, Austin, Inglis, Akauola, Clark J, Clark D (NRL possibly) and Hill (Leigh possibly) at least. That's a lot of experience and an equally large chunk of salary cap. Leaves Powell with a number of promising youngsters and plenty of current first teamers but plenty of gaps to fill too. It will be interesting to watch the comings and goings.'"
Fitzpatrick has said that Widdop will be here next season and they have big plans for him.
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| I think Widdop, Inglis, J Clark and Sita will no doubt be gone, these alone will give significant room on the salary cap. I know what has been said about big plans for Widdop, but I can't see it.
Austin I have a sneaky suspicion may stay, finding two new half backs isn't easy, and if we can bring Trueman in and have Austin for a couple more years hopefully Dean will be able to stake a claim. 2 new half backs plus a hooker in the same offseason would be difficult to deliver...
Hill is a funny one, he's been better in the first few games of the year, he may fancy a move to Leigh at the end of his career, but props seem hard to find right now, maybe Powell would be tempted to keep hold of him?
Clark - I just wont entertain the possibility of him leaving!!!!
Is Jake Mamo off contract too? Always offers good versatility, but I can't help but think his place would be better used by Roebuck / Thewlis / ANO academy player.
In terms of incomings, Trueman would be a great signing if we can get Cas to part with him, Peter Mata'utia has been mentioned too, plays right centre so could be an option for replacing Inglis.
Hill would need a quality replacement in a difficult market and I still want a backrower with a bit more attacking threat, Powell usually uses Milner at 13 doesn't he? Maybe a smaller, harder working player like Hughes could fit that role...
If the reserves are to return we may see a couple of head scratching signings that no doubt fans will be up in arms about, but have been signed specifically with the reserves in mind - What's Matty Blythe up to these days?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i was going to do a thread with the expiring contracts, to see whom people would like to keep or release,'"
I think it would be handy to know who is off contract at the end of the year. We do need to remember that in a salary cap sport you can't buy everyone. But otherwise blimey ... try and enjoy the season and support who is playing now. Don't wish your life away.
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| Really hope Austin isn't staying. He can go and be good for 10 matches somewhere else. Very poor for a while now.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I think it would be handy to know who is off contract at the end of the year. We do need to remember that in a salary cap sport you can't buy everyone. But otherwise blimey ... try and enjoy the season and support who is playing now. Don't wish your life away.'" Greg Inglis, Tom Lineham, Toby King, Blake Austin, Chris Hill, Jason Clark, Jake Mamo, Sitaleki Akauola, Danny Walker, Samy Kibula, Matty Ashton, Nathan Roebuck, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"
If the reserves are to return we may see a couple of head scratching signings that no doubt fans will be up in arms about, but have been signed specifically with the reserves in mind - What's Matty Blythe up to these days?'"
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Greg Inglis, Tom Lineham, Toby King, Blake Austin, Chris Hill, Jason Clark, Jake Mamo, Sitaleki Akauola, Danny Walker, Samy Kibula, Matty Ashton, Nathan Roebuck, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro.'"
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| I didn't realise Dean was off contract.
Definites for me would be Ashton, King, Dean and Roebuck (last two shouldn't cost much for a couple of years). I just hope we don't end up in a contract battle for King. I don't want us tying him up for 5 years on marquee money, even if he has been the best SL centre for 12 months.
Maybe: Hill has been pretty solid this season and I'd be happy to keep him for a year on a sensible deal. Doro, Walker decent enough backup at the right price (no pun intended). Mamo might be a decent utility under Powell. He's not a first choice centre or winger but he has decent pace and footwork, and there aren't many backup players I can think of who could do any better. Again it's all about the cap space he'd be taking up.
Moving on: Lineham (pains me to say it, but I think Powell could get more out of a cheaper alternative who doesn't sit out a third of the season. Austin - just too expensive based on the returns, unless Powell could resurrect him. Inglis - he isn't here to stay and his wife will want the Aussie lifestyle back, unless her Cheshire horses and our golden barley fields have won her over.
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| Quote ="easyWire"
Moving on: Lineham (pains me to say it, but I think Powell could get more out of a cheaper alternative who doesn't sit out a third of the season. Austin - just too expensive based on the returns, unless Powell could resurrect him. Inglis - he isn't here to stay and his wife will want the Aussie lifestyle back, unless her Cheshire horses and our golden barley fields have won her over.'" The annoying thing with Lineham is he has all the attributes you’d want in a winger. He’s at a good age (2icon_cool.gif, he’s big, strong, powerful, can finish, decent pace, has a good numbers when he does play but the question will always be his discipline. Can we afford to have our first choice winger missing for 10-12 games a season?
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| Quote ="karetaker"Fitzpatrick has said that Widdop will be here next season and they have big plans for him.'"
A birthday party with a fly past by Wolfie?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"The annoying thing with Lineham is he has all the attributes you’d want in a winger. He’s at a good age (2icon_cool.gif, he’s big, strong, powerful, can finish, decent pace, has a good numbers when he does play but the question will always be his discipline. Can we afford to have our first choice winger missing for 10-12 games a season?'"
Agree, and his charge sheet means the bans will be north of 3 games. Pity, as he's better than Charnley.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Greg Inglis, Tom Lineham, Toby King, Blake Austin, Chris Hill, Jason Clark, Jake Mamo, Sitaleki Akauola, Danny Walker, Samy Kibula, Matty Ashton, Nathan Roebuck, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro.'"
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Austin if there's no alternative ready to be 1st choice.
Said it before, I don't mind Sita and would take a punt on him with a new coach. If Powell also says "nah" then I'll admit defeat
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I think it would be handy to know who is off contract at the end of the year. We do need to remember that in a salary cap sport you can't buy everyone. But otherwise blimey ... try and enjoy the season and support who is playing now. Don't wish your life away.'"
We've a coach who's leaving, a coach who's joining and potentially 12-14 players off contract. Cant blame anyone for wondering, doesn't mean I don't want Jason Clark to score under the sticks at OT to win us the GF
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| November 21:
Akauola
Austin
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J.Clark
Dean
Doro
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King
Lineham
Inglis
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Walker
November 22:
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| We need to keep King for absolute certain he would be very, very difficult to replace. Ashton and Dean I would like to see given contracts as I think they both have bags of potential that I would like to see under Powells guidance. If hill wants to stay i would definitely be giving him a year deal, if he wants to go to leigh to finish his career then he should be allowed that choice.
Lineham and Mamo I would keep personally but the rest I wouldn't be too upset to lose from a first team perspective.
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| To go - Inglis, Sita & Clark .. I would be very surprised if they are given new deals. I would anticipate all three to return down to Oz. I would expect Kibula to leave as well given his lack of opportunities and recent long term injury troubles.
Austin, Hill and Lineham I’m quite undecided about.. a lot will depend on whom else we are in for in the market, form of the players given their age and our salary cap restrictions. Plus, they may get better/longer deals elsewhere... we know Leigh have being eyeing up the return of Hill for quite some time.
Ashton, Dean, Doro, King, Mamo, Roebuck & Walker I would expect all to be retained given their youthful ages and hopefully under Powell will get more exposure to first team action. (This doesn’t relate to King & Mamo obviously!)
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| Austin can go for me, if Widdop goes aswell i'd make a play for Trueman or if that's a no go then Theo Fages is off contract with Saints this year and a handy half.
Peter Ma'atautia straight in for Inglis.
Keep Hill, King obviously (4 year deal), Ashton, Mamo, Dean and Walker.
Lineham if he could stop being an idiot i'd keep in a heartbeat, BUT like someone said elsewhere he's missed something like 28 games through suspension so for me let him go.
Cooper and Mulhern starting, with Philbin and Hill off the bench next year with Butler, Doro and a new prop would be good.
Hughes to 13 with someone else at 2nd row, robson maybe?
Luis Johnson is being played in his actual 2nd row position at Hull KR and is looking good. So again screams what the hell are our coaching team doing, and why are our player getting worse?
I can't wait for Powell to come in and assemble a new backroom staff.
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| Honestly though why would Toby go to KR? No disrespect but why KR?
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| Quote ="Briers'Boot"Honestly though why would Toby go to KR? No disrespect but why KR?'"
Sack full of a money, in a short career, also play with his brother again, playing for tony smith.
Also, wages of that magnitude would also suggest that they're hitching their wagon on him being a top player, does he get that love in our current squad?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Sack full of a money, in a short career, also play with his brother again, playing for tony smith.
Also, wages of that magnitude would also suggest that they're hitching their wagon on him being a top player, does he get that love in our current squad?'"
I think his next salary needs to recognise that he is one of the best centres in SL now, we have plenty of cap space available so let's hope we don't try to do things on the cheap.
Have we had a list of off contract players released yet? One normally gets released round about now I think, sometimes players have signed but no official confirmation, if his name is on the list though, he's testing himself in the market, which you can't blame him for.
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| Quote ="Briers'Boot"Honestly though why would Toby go to KR? No disrespect but why KR?'"
Money. They've already offered him over £140k.
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