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| Did he deserve 10 mins in bin, once? Twice? Sending off? Or penalties sufficient at the time? I thought the decision had a msssive out come of the result !!??
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| Accept defeat gracefully , your team just wasn’t good enough
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| Quote ="Hatfield Town Wire"Did he deserve 10 mins in bin, once? Twice? Sending off? Or penalties sufficient at the time? I thought the decision had a msssive out come of the result !!??'"
Stuck watching in Rome due to work and both incidents were dubious at best. Commentators of course said there was nothing in them. But, this is the guy who always commits dubious looking incidents to the point where you may believe he’s clever enough to get away with them, if you want. Think of the times he’s stuck the boot into try scoring attempts etc.
Thank goodness neither incident took our lads out the game.
FWIW lots of neutrals on Twitter also believed he should’ve gone for the second one, clumsy error or not, since he’d already been warned.
Either way he didn’t have an outstanding game or come back to haunt us, wishing he had been binned, I guess? Plus I think taking Wigan down to 12 would’ve fired them up more than us.
Good riddance to him from Wigan anyway.
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| I’m not saying we should of won , but if most other players had done they they would of bin sin binned at the very least, massive call by the ref
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| Tomkins is a scummy cheat.
But I don't think either warranted a yellow,and it isn't the reason we lost.
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| He'll have more 10 minute breaks than a 1970s British Leyland worker next year at Catalans if he thinks he can carry on performing his little, errm, games.
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| Quote ="Hatfield Town Wire"Did he deserve 10 mins in bin, once? Twice? Sending off? Or penalties sufficient at the time? I thought the decision had a msssive out come of the result !!??'"
You don't get Robert Hicks making big, bold decisions in big games. A yellow for both was probably the right decisions.
As for it having a big impact on the game, I'm not sure. I don't see you scoring even if they're down to 12. You didn't do enough with the ball. Ratchford's aimless and unsupported darts were your only threats.
Charnley certainly got one back for you with his one on Escare.
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| Champion player. All I can say. Wish we had someone like him.
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| I don't think we did enough to win the game. In the last 20 and with our positional game. I think he should have had a 10 minute break for the second offence I'm not sure we would have capitalised though.
Good game, the best team won, please sign josh drinkwater, he'd be perfect with Blake Austin.
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| Not good enough I'm afraid..and it'll be the same next season with brown in the halves...
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| Seemed to have his back to the attacker, stuck out a leg, then was fortunate to get a hand on, which gave the ref a huge cop out of not having to make a real decision.
Surprised that neither incident went on report.
BUT
Overall our halves weren't creative enough, and Wigan deserved the win.
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| Yes he’s a poop house and he’s not quite the player he was in his pre injury days but like Sean Long he has maintained his career as a great competitor so fair play to him I hope he enjoys his successful exit from the pies and can help bring something to Catalans.
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| Tomkins was the difference between the 2 sides & was instrumental in Wigan winning. Without him they were very mediocre . His dodgy play is nasty & certainly not needed on a rugby field.
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| Top and big game player.
We don't have one.
Someone who like Briers could get a grip of a game and do the management.
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| I wish we had a Rat Boy like player in our side.
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| The best players get away things like that. He is a champion and mentally a winner. Probably what we just lacked to get us through a grand final where we played well enough in defence to be worthy champions. We just lacked a leader and a general in the halves.
With Austin in the halves last night and a cool head alongside him, we almost certainly would have won. We didn't though and must continue to improve. I trust Steve Price to get us over this loss, and avoid a repeat of 2017.
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| We have no idea how Austin will be for us yet. We had high hopes for Roberts.
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| Quote ="Wires71"We have no idea how Austin will be for us yet. We had high hopes for Roberts.'"
Yes, you're quite right - I'm meaning that if Austin provided a running threat (as we [iexpect[/i) with a classic half alongside him, it would have been the difference between win and a loss.
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| The trip is 10 minutes, all day long. Having been warned for that he then leads with his knees (like he does all season) and gets away with that too, so what's the point in giving him a warning?
That said, the worst decision for me was the penalty that piggy-backed them to their first try, that was not a late hit on Leuluai, at all. Later hits than that get let go in every single round
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| Quote ="100% Wire"The trip is 10 minutes, all day long. Having been warned for that he then leads with his knees (like he does all season) and gets away with that too, so what's the point in giving him a warning?
That said, the worst decision for me was the penalty that piggy-backed them to their first try, that was not a late hit on Leuluai, at all. Later hits than that get let go in every single round'"
...and earlier on in the match on roberts.
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| Is the refereeing poor & should the video ref be intervening in these decisions which are no less critical than seeing if a try has or has not been scored? It is instances like we saw tonight that continue to convince me that playing the ref is the most important tactic for winning big games.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"...and earlier on in the match on roberts.'"
Yes he got flattened a few times in the first 20 minutes with hits so late they were posthumous.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"
That said, the worst decision for me was the penalty that piggy-backed them to their first try, that was not a late hit on Leuluai, at all. Later hits than that get let go in every single round'"
This is the trouble with blaming the ref. You have overlooked that it was actually a Wire knock on early in the count AFTER we had defended the attack following the penalty award. All we needed to do was play out 5 tackles and boot it. But lack of composure and poor carry cost us.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"The trip is 10 minutes, all day long. Having been warned for that he then leads with his knees (like he does all season) and gets away with that too, so what's the point in giving him a warning?
That said, the worst decision for me was the penalty that piggy-backed them to their first try, that was not a late hit on Leuluai, at all. Later hits than that get let go in every single round'"
100% correct IMO particularly the 'late' hit although watching it live and on TV may give a different perspective and before the likes of Brick with Eyes comes back I'm not sure that we'd have had enough guile to make the most of them being down to 12 and the best team won.
It's not an excuse for us not winning but in a standard game there's a good chance there'd be different calls and that can't be right can it?
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| Makes the sin binning for Lineham and the original 3 match ban very, very harsh.
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