....rumour here in Oz is that he is going to St George as assistant to Paul McGregor.....

We'll all be gutted if that's true.

Seriously though, I can't remember a less popular appointment in my time watching the club, he would have had to win everything to win us over, and even then we would have credited tony. Sadly for him his appointment coincided with us going from a free scoring entertaining team to a boring and dreadful team, sure that was nothing to do with agar though, good luck dragons.

Not as bad as Anderson but nearly.

Can anyone point to another assistant coach in the sport who has received so much criticism in comparison to the big boss?

Even at Wakefield a few weeks ago, people were calling for him to be lynched but started hyperventilating if they overheard a bad word being said about Smith.

I think we many of us understand it as, Agar does have the greater training imputation on the field. TS ticks the boxes for Agar to take his heat along with running the club.

He gets this level of criticism because lots of people think that Smith is far less hands on in the the day to day coaching of the team, and that vast amounts of things in training are done by Agar.

I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is then he rightly deserves the level of scrutiny and criticism he gets.

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Is that really any different to other clubs? I can't imagine that Shaun Wane has much influence when it comes to backs training, for example.

The same rumour made it into one of the RL papers here yesterday.

With no disrespect to him.. some of the best coaches over here can only manage an assistant role in the NRL. Agar must have a fierce Squash backhand!

Hardly set the world alight so far.

Reading the report, it suggested that the role being offered in Aus wasn't as high profile as his current role at Wire but that he fancied trying his luck.

Heard that both him and Smith are going at the end of the season.

Just out of curiosity , by "heard" do you mean from an independent reputable source, or just that you've read it somewhere else on this here forum ?

The rumour was TS and Agar tendered resignation following defeat at Wakefield that that then took top 8 aspirations out of our hands.
SJM asked them to stay until the season is over.

Rumour from OZ puts Agar keen to get other employment. TS has done ok out of Wire. Perhaps he wants time out?

Moley reports Wire search activities...vague from him not mentioning who or what.

That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.

If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.

I have no answer to the not making sense. Little makes sense of the this season.
As regards SJM decision I cannot answer for him either.
My only thought is SJM considers the ship is in a better position following course until docked over a rudderless mutiny.

Can only assume who they want to replace Smithgar is currently unavailable to take over (hypothetically), and they remember the last time someone was brought in as a temporary measure, big Jimmy Lowes!

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if it was a case of briers n Clarke to the end f the season whilst we search for replacement I cannot say I think our results would have been any worse that under smith, very often in sport when a side replaces a manager there is often an upturn in performances for whatever reason a new voice and ideas are often whats needed to get the players firing again.

we can only speculate about what if we had changed the management early enough after 8/9 games we could still have made top8 and possibly top4 if had made changes at the right time hindsight is great but I feel a lot of people could have predicted a poor season after a short amount of time yet the well paid so called professionals did not and we have suffered for it

Exactly. St Helens acted decisively and now have a sporting chance of the Top 4. Our problems were just as evident as those of our neighbours, but inaction has seen us into a battle for survival.

Despite the talk of searches for a replacement getting under way in Oz, I feel that the options tabled were probably for an upcoming Aussie coach to work under Smith. And to be fair as an upcoming Aussie coach like Furner, I would want control of the reigns not to play second fiddle to somebody. My guess is they said no thanks.

I predict we'll be stuck with the current regime for the foreseeable future. I can't see the board sacking Smith, so we'll likely see a new number 2 brought in at some point in the future but nothing will really change. We need a fresh start and a clean sheet for the players.

6th-8th place for us next year and mediocrity resumed a la 2015. However the club will still be in profit so the sporting achievements side of things will take second stage for the next few years.

Anything is possible, but the post match interview with TS after the Wigan away win said to me he was out. That would tie in with Agar looking for another job.
Why would SM tie his hands and restrict his choice of new coaches by insisting TS remained, particularly after TS has been seen to fail in maintaining the club in the top 4.

Is there any actual proof of TS handing in his resignation or is it just rumor on here. Only ask because i didnt pick anything up at the meeting last night that he would be gone when recruitment was talked about. I mean would a guy be involved in recruitment if was not going to be there, strange if that was the case.

Again hypothetically, Smith would still have a passion for the club, but sees he needs to move on to get the team going again next year, SJM wants a smooth transition but still trust Smith's input.

How you lot can blame Agar for your sides comical season is equally comical! Not one of you lot slaughtered him when the gormless giggler was laughing his way all the way to Old Trafford. Easy to pick fault when the going gets tough. Anyway, see you all on Friday on the Axminster!

Well you are certainly wrong about that.
I've at least has been calling for his head for 3 seasons.