But I won't be. I'll tell it how it is. We are utterly attrotious. Massive clear out needed. We've come up against a half decent team and bottled it.

Call me a bit part, negative supporter all you want but we are woeful.

Big changes needed at the club.

Can't argue with this, anyone thinks otherwise is deluded. Someone on the other thread mentioned only Clark and Currie missing, so no excuse at all. Seriously it really is time fot Smith to go, im thankful for what he as done for us in the past but thats just it, its the past.

Our half back pairing is utterly useless, no idea in attack.

Evans
Dwyer
Brown
Without a doubt shouldn't be near the team sheet next week.

Our attack couldn't unlock an open door. Set after set of bombs to one of the safest pairs of hands in the league? That's either bad coaching or just clueless players.

Brown and Patton both anonymous but at least Dec can put it down to youthful inexperience. Brown the worst signing since Rocket Rodwell. Gids ready for the knacker's yard I'm afraid. We'll make shoddy Saints look half decent this time next week.

totally agree, im waiting for the ones to start spouting get behind the team they need you and moaning wont do any good they need all the support blah de dah..we are pants we dont entertain any more..it pains me to say it but we are heading for games with feth and kr

This. But the problem is that TS reads these forums and always picks the players we know should not just to annoy us all.

Hope London make top 4, its nearest we will get to visiting Wembley.

Just out of curiosity how old do you have to be before "youthful inexperience" ceases to be a valid excuse, if indeed it ever is?

Patton has played plenty of first team rugby now and is still miles away from being a consistent player with any kind of ability to take a game by the scruff of it's nexk and dominate. At the moment he looks like another Myler and O' Brien and they never kicked on did they?

Hughes hasn't impressed me this season, Russell quote "Our Fonua" unquote wouldn't get in a top 6 team, Gids is unfortunately at the end too. Bad signings, bad planning.

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One of the problems we have is we very rarely land on our front in the tackle. When we do we're good, but we often end up turned on our back. But never do that to rnd opposition.

Also outgunned by a pack lacking Houghton, Ellis and Watts.

Middle 8s loom.

Can't wait for next week against Saints lacking thing only sparks in the team in Hill and Ratchford

I agree, but still cannot see Simon M ditching TS. Like to be proved wrong, but just can't see it happening.

See no evil
Hear no evil
Speak no evil

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browns had 1 good game against brisbane as they all did dec patton did more in the 1st half v leeds than brown as all season in super league,im willing to stick with young dec than brown..give youth its chance if they make mistakes hen the older player is there to guide them..would you want any guidance off brown..

I would rather have guidance from a Labrador.

Putting a decent centre inside Russell would help, agree with Gids a season too far

Take it from a Hull fan, if Smith goes you'd likely end up with Agar taking over. That is one thing you CERTAINLY don't want.

We're not that far off from getting it right, yeah I agree the Grand Final horse has bolted due to our poor star. But a spot in the super 8s and a good run un the CC won't be that bad. To win away at hull tonight was a little optimistic!

I want Patton as our half. However, what I saw tonight from him was way off, that isn't something he can put right playing SL against big teams.
I would not play him vs Saints after that.
There is too much in his game he needs to work on.
He needs to show fight and want to be the best half and a leader. In the last two games...yes coinciding with Browns return, he is a bridesmaid.
You don't play humble pie because the more senior player has returned. You up your game even more.

The dictionary definition of blind faith

either that, or Tony Smith has hacked into your RLFans account, inside the dressing room

hull were`nt that good mate in fact ordinary but ordinary will beat wire on most accasions this season..

A little bit harsh on Hull. Most Hull fans are praising our performance tonight as one of our best showings this season. Hard to find a weak link in our 17 tonight. And thats with Talanoa, Houghton, Bowden, Watts, Ellis out, and three youngsters with little experience (Turgut, Downs and the excellent Fash) on the bench.

Really?

Patton was only saved from anonymity tonight by his errors. Brown wasn't great but was far, far better. Nevertheless, we got a lesson in converting your chances and make the most of errors. At least the play the ball errors were massively reduced he says, clutching at straws.....