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| Simple question.
Who takes over?
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| I have a feeling that the man is already at the club and has been brought in to gradually takeover more and more of the first team coaching duties and eventually will be the first team coach proper.
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| I would be astonished if Moran would sanction that
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"I have a feeling that the man is already at the club and has been brought in to gradually takeover more and more of the first team coaching duties and eventually will be the first team coach proper.'"
I take it you are saying Agar.
With his track record I would rather stick with Tony Smith.
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| Quote ="Irish Wire"I take it you are saying Agar.
With his track record I would rather stick with Tony Smith.'"
I missed out the crucial word "bad" fourth word in!
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| Absolutely no chance of Agar taking over. He will leave when Smith does.
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| The club could always abandon rugby league & become a squash club.
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| Agreed MD. Agar will go with Smith.
Bring in Shaun Edwards. He had always been Moran's no1 target.
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| Not a chance of Agar taking over, there would be a riot in the stands!!
If Tony goes, I'd give it Briers until end of year and begin the search for someone take over at end of season.
Daryl Powell I'd like to see with our finances behind him. He's doing a great job at Cas at the minute.
Other names...
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| A lot of people are saying Toovey from Manly.....
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| Brian Smith!
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| I'm shocked people are even talking of smith going. He's done terrific job for you and Imo still the best coach in super league.
You can't just sack someone based on one bad season in all the years he's been there. So Imo he deserves next season as well.
If you did get shut Id go for powell at cas. The job he's done there is unreal.
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| St Pete did you want swapsies for Cunningham?....I'll throw in Agar too!
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm shocked people are even talking of smith going. He's done terrific job for you and Imo still the best coach in super league.
You can't just sack someone based on one bad season in all the years he's been there. So Imo he deserves next season as well.
If you did get shut Id go for powell at cas. The job he's done there is unreal.'"
Very well said, couldn't have put it better myself.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm shocked people are even talking of smith going. He's done terrific job for you and Imo still the best coach in super league.
You can't just sack someone based on one bad season in all the years he's been there. So Imo he deserves next season as well.
If you did get shut Id go for powell at cas. The job he's done there is unreal.'"
Absolutely spot on. I can only imagine that anybody who genuinely wants Smith to go has either got a very short memory or simply hasn't been watching Wires for very long and is under the delusion that we are some trophy laden giant of rugby league.
I'm as disappointed as anybody with our season this year and our continuing failure to win Super League. The 2013 Grand Final collapse will haunt me until the day we finally win it, if we ever do. However, I also remember waiting until I was 29 years old to see Wires win our first major trophy - ie one that still exists - in my lifetime, and then start challenging the real big clubs - Wigan, Saints and Leeds - on a consistent basis. Obviously I'd put Bradford alongside those three if it wasn't for their recent troubles.
I give one man the credit for that success, and up until recently so did most on here. Yes, Simon Moran has played a big role but we spent money under Cullen too. It was only when we got a real elite coach in that everything changed.
If you're a spoiled kid and want Smith out then I can sort of understand why, although I disagree with you. If you're 25+ and want Smith out then I despair of you.
Smith IN.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"St Pete did you want swapsies for Cunningham?....I'll throw in Agar too!'"
I love KC for what he's done for saints but I'm still on the fence if he's a good coach. In one respect we are top of the league and in another we are playing dull boring rugby abd are giving far to many pens away. Kc took the job a year to early due to Brown going home so I suppose we need to give him time.
Do I think Smith if the better coach ? Yes, 100% better than kc. Would I swap ? No, not yet as im loyal to KC and needs time
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Absolutely spot on. I can only imagine that anybody who genuinely wants Smith to go has either got a very short memory or simply hasn't been watching Wires for very long and is under the delusion that we are some trophy laden giant of rugby league.
I'm as disappointed as anybody with our season this year and our continuing failure to win Super League. The 2013 Grand Final collapse will haunt me until the day we finally win it, if we ever do. However, I also remember waiting until I was 29 years old to see Wires win our first major trophy - ie one that still exists - in my lifetime, and then start challenging the real big clubs - Wigan, Saints and Leeds - on a consistent basis. Obviously I'd put Bradford alongside those three if it wasn't for their recent troubles.
I give one man the credit for that success, and up until recently so did most on here. Yes, Simon Moran has played a big role but we spent money under Cullen too. It was only when we got a real elite coach in that everything changed.
If you're a spoiled kid and want Smith out then I can sort of understand why, although I disagree with you. If you're 25+ and want Smith out then I despair of you.
Smith IN.'"
I'd go along with all of this IF Smith showed any concern or recognition that we are playing like absolute dogdirt this year.
Currently, his media appearances give the impression of a man sleepwalking into crisis and with neither any idea it is happening nor the passion/motivation to sort it out.
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| what about is brother at wakey
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| If Smith goes then we should get the Wizard of Oz in to be coach - just what we need to give the team some heart, brains & courage!
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm shocked people are even talking of smith going. He's done terrific job for you and Imo still the best coach in super league.
You can't just sack someone based on one bad season in all the years he's been there. So Imo he deserves next season as well.'"
Well said
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Absolutely spot on. I can only imagine that anybody who genuinely wants Smith to go has either got a very short memory or simply hasn't been watching Wires for very long and is under the delusion that we are some trophy laden giant of rugby league.
I'm as disappointed as anybody with our season this year and our continuing failure to win Super League. The 2013 Grand Final collapse will haunt me until the day we finally win it, if we ever do. However, I also remember waiting until I was 29 years old to see Wires win our first major trophy - ie one that still exists - in my lifetime, and then start challenging the real big clubs - Wigan, Saints and Leeds - on a consistent basis. Obviously I'd put Bradford alongside those three if it wasn't for their recent troubles.
I give one man the credit for that success, and up until recently so did most on here. Yes, Simon Moran has played a big role but we spent money under Cullen too. It was only when we got a real elite coach in that everything changed.
If you're a spoiled kid and want Smith out then I can sort of understand why, although I disagree with you. If you're 25+ and want Smith out then I despair of you.
Smith IN.'"
Summed up my feelings perfectly.
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| I 100% want Smith to stay. I'm just a little concerned that he's not the one really in charge any more.
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| Smith must stay. As a lyric in one of my favourite songs goes "this is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong".
Smith (along with his staff and players) have got us into this state. It's HIS responsibility to get us out of it, and not have some kind of knee-jerk reaction, and turn us into Wigan of the late 90's, when they were going through coaches like Rod Stewart used to go through groupies, when things weren't going their way.
I only have one bugbear with the fella, and that's his recruitment policy (and, at times, the lack of it). Bar Hill, Hodgson and (90% of the time) Ratchford, his transfer dealings have been poor, and recruitment from overseas, likewise. Don't get me started on the obvious situation regarding an aging Briers.
I was of the mind that a few of the posters on here were being a tad paranoid over the recruitment of Agar as his assistant. I'm quickly coming round to their way of thinking. It's a bit more than coincidence, that our decline really "kicked in" when this chancer was brought in. As I said in a post last weekend, I "don't get" that a successful assistant like Poching leaves us to do the same job at a club of a lesser stature (sorry any Rovers fans still on here), Smith's buddy walks through the door, and our attack literally goes to pot, yet we're still playing (at times) hairbrained tactics.
It's quite simple. Smith's messing up. All his previous good work is unravelling in front of his eyes. It's HIS job to get us out of this long standing rut. No-one elses. If we get gubbed by 30 points for 8 games on the bounce, get jibbed out of the cup by Leigh, and barely show any interest in any of the above games, then heads may have to roll.
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| I do agree about Agar. Sheer bad timing on his behalf. I think Agar does possess a quality to build a team, he arrive too late to have a significant influence upon this one.
Perhaps TS does recognise team building is his Achilles heel and brought Agar in to address that?
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| I hope Tony + his mate don't read the comments section on the Guardian website.Not pretty.
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