I rarely start topics on here but tonight WTF..?
Half backs again none exsitant..!
Kicking game ditto..!
Second rowers nothing !
Discipline appalling !

But my biggest worry is the fact that teams like Widnes and Huddersfield don't have to do anything special to cross the try line..!

I know this will be called a knee jerk but that was very poor tonight ..!

I don't think it's as bad as 2002 just yet.....

Everything about tonight, from the players to the imbecile 'fans' was horrendous. The working thing is, I can't see it getting better. We are completely lacking in direction and basic football skills. So painfully dull and predictable!

I was worried about this season... but we are much MUCH worse than i thought we would be.

Tonight was a turning point.... Tonight this looked like a team that has stopped believing in the coach.

no direction, no kicking game (standard), no structure...... but the things which were far worse.. no heart, no intensity... no clue

This is a beaten team in every department.

we were beaten from the moment widnes scored their first try.

i dont even think 2 new half backs would fix this.... the problem appears to be much deeper.

where do we get seven more wins that will give us 22 points to hopefully be enough to stay in the 8.......its proper dark pal .....dark indeed......

Tonight was the first time in quite a few years where I thought to myself "what am I doing here".. I had to get an early finish today from work to attend tonight, which means I owe a favour...
I can take being beaten by a better team but that was as bad as it gets, Widnes didn't have to work hard.. We are so soft !!

You soon changed your tune.

This team and coach are screwed

why is everyone so surprised? we have gone from a team full of internationals, genuine creative players and good quality Aussies to a team riddled with mediocre players, over the hill has been's and no creativity. Its not rocket science really.

Briers not replaced to the same level
Hodgson not replaced to the same level
King not replaced to the same level
Solomona not replaced to the same level
Carvell not replaced to the same level
Morley not replaced to the same level

GOB not good enough
Myler not good enough in this set-up
Bridge - not good enough (might be finished)

Clarke replaces M Monaghan...should be good enough

Penny..not good enough...same defensive frailties

Russell..mediocre
Currie..mediocre
Simms - mediocre
R Evans - mediocre
Laithwaite - mediocre

Asotasi - finished

Hill - good enough...carrying the whole team at the moment
Ratchford - would be good enough in a better set-up
England - OK
Monaghan - would be OK in a team with a kicking game
Atkins - would be OK in a team with decent half backs
Westwood - OK
Harrison - OK
Higham - OK but nearly finished.

You abused Clark on twitter yet?

"Teams like Widnes and Huddersfield" you mean teams who are above you in the table and have just beaten you comfortably

spot on

Maybe that "overseas bank" has closed down?
You still have some quality players but no creative half backs, to me you haven't replaced briers or Monaghan, the only 2 creative players you had.

Yes

Awwww ..things go in cycles though at the moment teams like Huddersfield and Widnes are better than Warrington but give it a few weeks you could have turned it round and be the best team ever again

Not really worth my efforts any more, coz he's doing nothing to change my opinion is he?

Not bothered, doesn't want to be here, and stealing a pay packet

As a neutral, what's happened to the team that beat Leeds 3 games ago??

Myler's back on Monday, all is fine.

And who have also finished above you in the table for the last couple of seasons.

Some of you have quickly changed your tune? I posted 3 weeks ago after you beat the Rhinos and was accused of being a troll when i thought that you were not that much better than us whilst the majority of you were all getting carried away viewtopic.php?f=21&t=579750&start=50 IMO your last few results and performances show that i was indeed correct and that something is clearly wrong at the moment at your club,Although i firmly believe that TS will sort it out in the coming weeks

Some of you have quickly changed your tune? I posted 3 weeks ago after you beat the Rhinos and was accused of being a troll when i thought that you were not that much better than us whilst the majority of you were all getting carried away viewtopic.php?f=21&t=579750&start=50 IMO your last few results and performances show that i was indeed correct and that something is clearly wrong at the moment at your club,Although i firmly believe that TS will sort it out in the coming weeks

Nowt wrong with your match summing up of our team performances. It was the open top bus ride around Warrington that was the trolling remark.

I used the term "open top bus ride around Warrington" merely to point out how over the top some/most of your posters were in over reacting to such a win, They were clearly getting too carried away after such an in comprehensive win IMO

Re read the post and you will clearly see that the posters that were waxing lyrical that night are the self same ones that are condemning everything about your club/players and coach after last nights loss

you were trolling and you were rightly pulled up on it.

Now you're back again.... trolling again.

As you are not willing to let go of this, I just had a quick glance at the thread you copied and pasted. The title "best display in ages" that isn't going over the top it's true... Further more all I can see is Wire fans commenting on a win against a good side ... Shock Horror..!!
Why are Leeds fans so precious when they lose a game...? In fact so precious they come trolling some weeks after that game trying to make themselves feel better ??

No pal I haven't changed my tune, I never expected us to win anything this year. What I have changed is my confidence to stay in the eight that's all. That's probably knee jerk after two poor performances on the bounce.

but that said I'm taking your lead and am off to Tony Smiths House to shout obscenities at his front door maybe I can hurl some horse manure at his BMW when he drives past........ that should help....

Pretty much spot on.

Genuine question - When does the goodwill that Tony Smith has garnered through his great work during his early years, eventually run out?

We've been in steady decline since 2011 - Compare the first choice 17's from then and now. Only Chris Hill would make the 2011 team. Those players whose names make both line ups have gone downhill since then, our signings since that time have been mediocre, and the young players coming through, while decent enough, none are what you would call quality.

I'm not saying Smith should be sacked or anything, but if this decline continues, by the end of his contract in 2016, most of us will be quite happy to see the back of him.