Quite simple really, regardless of position. Who would you have as SL's top ten players. Sure to start a debate.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. James Roby
3. Rangi Chase
4. Lee Briers
5. Scott Dureau
6. Michael Monaghan
7. Brett Finch
8. Ben Westwood
9. Gareth Hock
10.Michael Dobson

Currently or since it began, i'm guessing currently.

Currently.

1. Michael Monaghan
2. Sam Tomkins
3. Lee Briers
4. James Roby
5. Brett Finch
6. Kevin Sinfield
7. Sean O'Loughlin
8. Gareth Hock
9. Rangi Chase
10. Michael McIlorum

1. James Roby
2. Danny Houghton
3. Sam Tomkins
4. Lee Briers
5. Michael Monaghan
6. Sean O'Loughlin

After this I was thinking of ten or eleven players to fit into the other four places but this is my definite top six.

Danny Houghton better than Sam Tomkins? I rate him as a decent young player but I wouldn't rate him that highly, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion though.

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karl pryce
cardice
adrian purtill
mcgraff lueilui
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cant think of any on else to fill the remainding spots of this group of feared players (well you could insert the widnes team)

Danny Houghton
Daryl Goulding
Mickey Mac
Kris Welham
Matty Smith
Leroy Cudjoe

Anyone else basically irrelevant.

Always rated David Ferriol at Catalan to be a good player.

1. Tomkins
2. Micky Monas
3. Tommy Lelulei (sp)
4. Briersy
5. Ryan Hall
6. Ferriol
7. Dereau
8. Ryan Atkins
9. Roby
10. Dobson

The above are in no particular order.

How McBanana lets Sinfield, JJB, Peacock and Chase anywhere near the England side is beyond me. We need a new, younger feel to the side, and picking the same old cart horses won't allow the youngsters to come through.

Totally agree , somehow Carvell has slipped through the the well past it cart horse filter though

1. Michael Monaghan
2. Lee Briers
3. Ben Westwood
4. Brett Hodgson
5. Trent Waterhouse
6. Adrian Morley
7. Ryan Atkins
8. Gareth Carvell
9. Chris Riley
10. Sam Tomkins

carvell is back in form and has started tearing in again

Just my personal preference. Sam Tomkins is the best open field runner in this country. He is probably the most exciting player to watch in the country. But his defence and passing is nowhere near the standard of Houghton. It's not all about highlight plays for me. If someone is outstanding at the bread and butter stuff i find that as being as excellent as the highlight plays. and i don't like Tomkins neither (that probably has a lot to do with it), i think he's a ing mard ar$e (still a top player, mind).

Only one word for that bilge - pathetic.

So you think Sam Tomkins' defence is better than Super League's top tackler? And you think Houghton's passing skills are inferior to Tomkins? Also you don't think Tomkins is the best open field runner in the league? Nor that he's the league's most exciting player? Plus you don't accept when someone likes to see players do the simple things? Nor can you recognise that someone can dislike Tomkins' other aspects that he has?

My favourite footballer over the last five or six years has been Andrés Iniesta, my favourite basketballer is Russell Westbrook...other players get all the headlines (Messi/CRonaldo; Lebron/Durant), I just like their games better. Is it beyond your understanding that people can have views like that?

Neither is Sam as big as Richard Moore, or as bald as Keith Senior. So why aren't they in your best list?

I think you are a little bit biased and favour Sam Tomkins & Wigan, but the rest of your selections are spot on.

Houghton's not even in the same league as Roby, Monaghan and Tomkins.

You're weird.

My original number 10 was Stefan Ratchford but i thought i'd change it so all of the Wigan fans visiting our board didnt accuse me of being biased!

How can anyone not put Tomkins at 1? He is currently making the league look silly!

It is too hard to put players in order right now... so NOT in order...

Tomkins
Finch
Hock
Lockers
Leuluai
Roby
Monaghan (when fit obviously)
Dureau
Westwood
Biers

I did try and pick less Wigan players

Sam Tomkins
James Roby
Brett Finch
Thomas Leuleuai
Ryan Hall
Tom Briscoe
Michael Monaghan
Sean O'Loughlin
Kevin Sinfield
Scott Dureau

sam tomkins
lee briers
james roby
tommy leuleui
michael monaghan
scott dureau
brett finch
kevin sinfield
stef ratchford
ryan hall

Good to see sensible posts on this thread... But the usual suspects

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I agree with that. Odem and Fin Fin spoilt the whole thing.

Have I really just seen Stefan Ratchford mentioned? Really?