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| Reminds me of the abandoned game at KR when we were winning but the game got called off because the wind was blowing the roof off in the stand where Rugby Leagues best supporters were.
I can't remember the year though
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Reminds me of the abandoned game at KR when we were winning but the game got called off because the wind was blowing the roof off in the stand where Rugby Leagues best supporters were.
I can't remember the year though'"
1989, at least the panels from KR lasted about 100 years, not a couple of months like these
Just think what it would be like if we had the bad weather like in Scotland or the south.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"=#FF0040Reminds me of the abandoned game at KR when we were winning but the game got called off because the wind was blowing the roof off in the stand where Rugby Leagues best supporters were.
I can't remember the year though'"
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| Lets hope its not the only battering they get this year!!!
Hope its not Damaged their trophy room!!!
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| Even in its current state its a big improvement on Knowsley Rd.
Is it definitely the wind thats caused this ? To me its got all the hallmarks of a break in, probably a couple of thick scousers that thought their would be lead on the roof.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Even in its current state its a big improvement on Knowsley Rd.
Is it definitely the wind thats caused this ? To me its got all the hallmarks of a break in, probably a couple of thick scousers that thought their would be lead on the roof.'"
Yeah definitely the wind. It's happened a few weeks ago when we had strong wind on a much smaller scale. Shoddy job by the roofers by the looks of it.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Yeah definitely the wind. It's happened a few weeks ago when we had strong wind on a much smaller scale. Shoddy job by the roofers by the looks of it.'"
Easy to balme the builders however I do wonder whether this is a consequence of having a gap between the top of the cladding and the roof. It would seem that this damage is a result of up-lift force applied to the roof sheets by wind funnelling through this gap. Did the original design that got planning (done by experienced architects BDP) include this gap? It is a strange feature and one which the specified roofing system may not be tried and tested with. Once you start moving into untried areas of design strange things can occur (think of the Millenium Bridge in London).
If this is the same area that suffered damage the other month (I understand it is) then when doing the repair you can be sure that the contractors would have be especially careful to follow installation instructions and not to cut corners. This would lead me to believe that a design or specification error may be the cause.
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| Quote ="Stinky Turner"Quote ="BackrowSaint"Yeah definitely the wind. It's happened a few weeks ago when we had strong wind on a much smaller scale. Shoddy job by the roofers by the looks of it.'"
Easy to balme the builders however I do wonder whether this is a consequence of having a gap between the top of the cladding and the roof. It would seem that this damage is a result of up-lift force applied to the roof sheets by wind funnelling through this gap. Did the original design that got planning (done by experienced architects BDP) include this gap? It is a strange feature and one which the specified roofing system may not be tried and tested with. Once you start moving into untried areas of design strange things can occur (think of the Millenium Bridge in London).
If this is the same area that suffered damage the other month (I understand it is) then when doing the repair you can be sure that the contractors would have be especially careful to follow installation instructions and not to cut corners. This would lead me to believe that a design or specification error may be the cause.'"
If you look at the pictures above you can see it was caused by wind hitting the side of the stadium and bending the roofing back. If it was caused by winds with a strong upward force the vast majority of the debris would be scattered all over the site rather than in the vicinity below. However, all suggestions are plausible until a proper investigation has taken place, which I would say is needed this time around.
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| Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.
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| Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.'"
Given how tight building regs are these days especially where the public are involved i can't see this stadium being signed off by building control in the near future, they will need to find out why this has happened more than once, to sign it off as complete and safe they will need to be 100% certain that it won't happen again and at the min that can't be guaranteed.
At a guess i'd say its a structural issue as the design has been changed since the original blueprints were given the ok, it will have different stress and weak points now. When stadiums are designed they will take into account swirling winds inside that put an upwards pressure on a roof, it certainly shouldn't be happening as these arn't the strongest winds that were gonna get.
It could be something as simple dodgy fastenings that arn't strong enough to keep the roof in place, dodgy workmanship or at worse the structural integrity of the stadium needs a rethink.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Fully Agree Senior Fatbelly. Something needs to be sorted with that corner of the ground before a game is even played there, there have been far too many Stadia related disasters in sport as it is... let's not bring RL down that route also
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.'"
Given how tight building regs are these days especially where the public are involved i can't see this stadium being signed off by building control in the near future, they will need to find out why this has happened more than once, to sign it off as complete and safe they will need to be 100% certain that it won't happen again and at the min that can't be guaranteed.
At a guess i'd say its a structural issue as the design has been changed since the original blueprints were given the ok, it will have different stress and weak points now. When stadiums are designed they will take into account swirling winds inside that put an upwards pressure on a roof, it certainly shouldn't be happening as these arn't the strongest winds that were gonna get.
It could be something as simple dodgy fastenings that arn't strong enough to keep the roof in place, dodgy workmanship or at worse the structural integrity of the stadium needs a rethink.'"
Worrying times for them.
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| Reckon I'll bring my hard hat along when we visit.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"Reckon I'll bring my hard hat along when we visit.'"
I imagine there will be a significant number of helmets at each game there.
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| The Halliwell Jones Stadium - structurally secure since 2004.
I'd love to know what Jon Wilkin thinks of this - he's got an opinion on everything else.
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| Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Rob Wire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.'"
Given how tight building regs are these days especially where the public are involved i can't see this stadium being signed off by building control in the near future, they will need to find out why this has happened more than once, to sign it off as complete and safe they will need to be 100% certain that it won't happen again and at the min that can't be guaranteed.
At a guess i'd say its a structural issue as the design has been changed since the original blueprints were given the ok, it will have different stress and weak points now. When stadiums are designed they will take into account swirling winds inside that put an upwards pressure on a roof, it certainly shouldn't be happening as these arn't the strongest winds that were gonna get.
It could be something as simple dodgy fastenings that arn't strong enough to keep the roof in place, dodgy workmanship or at worse the structural integrity of the stadium needs a rethink.'"
Worrying times for them.'"
One eyed Pie Eater in Saints worrying sensation.
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| Who was the Contractor?
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Rob Wire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.'"
Given how tight building regs are these days especially where the public are involved i can't see this stadium being signed off by building control in the near future, they will need to find out why this has happened more than once, to sign it off as complete and safe they will need to be 100% certain that it won't happen again and at the min that can't be guaranteed.
At a guess i'd say its a structural issue as the design has been changed since the original blueprints were given the ok, it will have different stress and weak points now. When stadiums are designed they will take into account swirling winds inside that put an upwards pressure on a roof, it certainly shouldn't be happening as these arn't the strongest winds that were gonna get.
It could be something as simple dodgy fastenings that arn't strong enough to keep the roof in place, dodgy workmanship or at worse the structural integrity of the stadium needs a rethink.'"
Worrying times for them.'"
One eyed Pie Eater in Saints worrying sensation.'"
Touching, isn't it? Funny, his alter-ego 'Onedego' doesn't seem quite so sympathetic on the Saints forum.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Who was the Contractor?'"
For the overall development it was Barr, who are experienced in stadium builds. However, they subcontracted the roof work to a company in Carlisle who usually construct roofs for Tesco (and in fact did the Tesco roof on the stadium site). However, according to their website they are inexperienced in the kind of work they did on the stadium. I guess that is showing!
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| Quote ="just_browny"Quote ="Teessidewire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Rob Wire"Quote ="Odem"Quote ="Fatbelly"Joking aside, the stadium could have been full of people.'"
Exactly. This should be taken very seriously. I have doubts over the game on the 20th.'"
Given how tight building regs are these days especially where the public are involved i can't see this stadium being signed off by building control in the near future, they will need to find out why this has happened more than once, to sign it off as complete and safe they will need to be 100% certain that it won't happen again and at the min that can't be guaranteed.
At a guess i'd say its a structural issue as the design has been changed since the original blueprints were given the ok, it will have different stress and weak points now. When stadiums are designed they will take into account swirling winds inside that put an upwards pressure on a roof, it certainly shouldn't be happening as these arn't the strongest winds that were gonna get.
It could be something as simple dodgy fastenings that arn't strong enough to keep the roof in place, dodgy workmanship or at worse the structural integrity of the stadium needs a rethink.'"
Worrying times for them.'"
One eyed Pie Eater in Saints worrying sensation.'"
Touching, isn't it? Funny, his alter-ego 'Onedego' doesn't seem quite so sympathetic on the Saints forum.'"
He needs to get a life, if he's not drooling about flags and Brigantes, or counting the gate at the DW, he's having a go at Saints and us. I'm amazed he finds the time to do his marketing degree.
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| 1st march 1990 same thing happened at Knowsley road after about 4 mins when they were playing us and the match was abandoned ! Same old skip different location !
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| Quote ="PADDERS"1st march 1990 same thing happened at Knowsley road after about 4 mins when they were playing us and the match was abandoned ! Same old skip different location !'"
Was it really only after 4 mins I seem to remember us winning something like 15 -4 when the match was abandoned.
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