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| Yep, a glutton for punishment.
The one thing that stands out from our performance is the individual errors, those errors cost us 18pts out of the 26pts that Leeds scored.
Simon Grix's attempted pass out wide that wasn't on, Ryan Hall said thanks very much and away he went. Simon Grix's lazy/weak attempt to tackle Rob Burrow, he scoots away from a weak shirt grab and Leeds score.
Chris Bridge's weak attempt on Brent Webb, that one was pretty poor by anyone's standards.
Yeh we wern't at our best on friday night with quite a few under par performances from some of our key players but we could have still won that game with a bit more effort and composure, Leeds were clinical in punishing those errors but they were errors that shouldn't of happened.
It was still a great performance from Leeds to win away at the side that finished top of the league, they were very solid.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"The one thing that stands out from our performance is the individual errors, those errors cost us 18pts out of the 24pts that Leeds scored. '"
I said the exact same thing to my Dad during the game at 18 all - we had to work to get our points, we gifted Leeds theirs (i'm not taking anything away for Leeds performance in general - but is was there to see).
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| Quote ="Gaz_E"I said the exact same thing to my Dad during the game at 18 all - we had to work to get our points, we gifted Leeds theirs (i'm not taking anything away for Leeds performance in general - but is was there to see).'"
Hopefully its part of the learning curve Gaz in gaining the knowledge of how to get to Old Trafford and potentially become Grand Final winners, our keep the ball alive at every available oppertunity is great to watch, we just need to find that balance of when to stick and not twist.
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| I think also 3 errors from Monas in the first half may have had a bearing on the result;
1. His break early in the piece, but passes too late and Webb cuts it out.
2. Poor pass to Briers which Briers knocks on 10 metres out.
3. Then knocks on from from the play the ball on our own 10 metre line.
Just one of those things, but Monas has been immense for us this year, it beggars belief how he is not shortlisted for Man of Steel.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Yep, a glutton for punishment.
The one thing that stands out from our performance is the individual errors, those errors cost us 18pts out of the 26pts that Leeds scored.
Simon Grix's attempted pass out wide that wasn't on, Ryan Hall said thanks very much and away he went. Simon Grix's lazy/weak attempt to tackle Rob Burrow, he scoots away from a weak shirt grab and Leeds score.
Chris Bridge's weak attempt on Brent Webb, that one was pretty poor by anyone's standards.
Yeh we wern't at our best on friday night with quite a few under par performances from some of our key players but we could have still won that game with a bit more effort and composure, Leeds were clinical in punishing those errors but they were errors that shouldn't of happened.
It was still a great performance from Leeds to win away at the side that finished top of the league, they were very solid.'"
I got the impression that Bridge got a back injury fairly early in the game. He did go off for a while, but came back on again.
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| Just re-watched the game again for the 1st and very last time.
Ganson missed an CLEAR penalty to us on Moz with the scores at 24 each right in front of the Leeds sticks, right in fornt of the Leeds sticks with about 3 mins left on the clock.
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| Quote ="Wire in Ashton"Monas has been immense for us this year, it beggars belief how he is not shortlisted for Man of Steel.'"
He had an absolute shocker on Friday.
Bridge was terrible as well. Bit of a blunder from Smith to put Bridge in the pack when he could have played him in the centre? It's not like Riley is a must-start, he could have been on the bench.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He had an absolute shocker on Friday.
Bridge was terrible as well. Bit of a blunder from Smith to put Bridge in the pack when he could have played him in the centre? It's not like Riley is a must-start, he could have been on the bench.'"
Never been a massive fan of Riley, but he was our best player on friday along with King, and before Hodgson went off he looked comfortable on the wing making a couple of teling runs, then at fullback looked solid under the high ball(more so than Hodgson) and ran it back strongly. this has consistantly been the case all year.I was bemused at his loan out and replacement by Rhys Williams who I have never rated.
maybe he's our Ade Gardner (without the errors obviously ) in that he's never going to be lauded as a superstar and will always have his critics but he gets the job done is safe and knows where the try line is.
But Bridge stunk the place out big time....cost him an England spot ...or too harsh....?
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| Simple really, too many players (for whatever reason) under performed on Friday...ahh well, roll on the mighty Wire winning the double next season.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Just re-watched the game again for the 1st and very last time.
Ganson missed an CLEAR penalty to us on Moz with the scores at 24 each right in front of the Leeds sticks, right in fornt of the Leeds sticks with about 3 mins left on the clock.'"
There was also one with about five minutes to go right in front of the South Stand on the 40 meter line where they held one of our players down for ages. Should have been a penalty and a good opportunity to get the ball deep into the Leeds half.
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru"Simple really, too many players (for whatever reason) under performed on Friday...ahh well, roll on the mighty Wire winning the double next season.'"
This one sentence sums up everything we have all felt and feel about next year.
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| Not going watch it again for a few months
But hindsight and all that I wish Briers had started banging drops over like at Wigan few years back
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| it was painful to watch!!!!!!!!!!! all it did for me was, (no offence to leeds, ) make me realise what i thought when i was watching the game at the hj on fri ,we lost the game rather than they won it!like i say,no offence to leeds, and no bad loser comment!just hard to take the manner of our defeat after the brilliant way we played all season,our fans and players really deserved a better end to our great season!still,we DID WIN the super league! and score the most points and conceeded less tries than any other team in the league, so it cant be all bad roll on nxt season !
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| Quote ="wireflyer33"still,we DID WIN the super league! '"
LOL. Not quite. Maybe next year.
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| Not watched it back and never will, filed under
Do not open ever, along with a few Saints games and the Hull playoff game
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| Quote ="Saddened!"LOL. Not quite. Maybe next year.'" not going over that topic again!
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| Quote ="wireflyer33"not going over that topic again!
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You won the hub cap which is worth nowt with out the big prize!
Ask Leeds fans! What did Leeds win in 05? WCC challenge and nothing else! Finishing top means nothing if you don't win the GF! It means something to wire fans because you haven't won a GF.
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| Quote ="Gaz_E"I said the exact same thing to my Dad during the game at 18 all - we had to work to get our points, we gifted Leeds theirs (i'm not taking anything away for Leeds performance in general - but is was there to see).'"
You had to work? I don't want to get into a childish pishing contest, or my dad's bigger than yours, but you scored three tries of the referees errors. That's hardly having to work.
Warrington are a great team and a great club, so not trying to bag them, just stating the actual.
The most interesting point for me was Smith's interview after the game. He stated that they needed the week off the week before, and that he had busted players playing, that perhaps he shouldn't have played a couple. This follows on from the recent extracts from Keith Seniors Autobiography regarding the 2005 challenge cup final, where in his book he alludes to the fact he was put under pressure from Smith to say he was ok to play, even though the medical staff said no. This could be a weakness of Tony Smith of pushing his big name players too far.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You won the hub cap which is worth nowt with out the big prize!
Ask Leeds fans! What did Leeds win in 05? WCC challenge and nothing else! Finishing top means nothing if you don't win the GF! It means something to wire fans because you haven't won a GF.'"
Wire did not win SL as that honour goes to the winner of the GF. However, the hub cap is very definitely worth winning in its own right - finishing top does mean a great deal. To be clear, Wire can't claim to be champions but can claim to have been the best team over 27 rounds of the comp.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You had to work? I don't want to get into a childish pishing contest, or my dad's bigger than yours, but you scored three tries of the referees errors. That's hardly having to work.
Warrington are a great team and a great club, so not trying to bag them, just stating the actual.
The most interesting point for me was Smith's interview after the game. He stated that they needed the week off the week before, and that he had busted players playing, that perhaps he shouldn't have played a couple. This follows on from the recent extracts from Keith Seniors Autobiography regarding the 2005 challenge cup final, where in his book he alludes to the fact he was put under pressure from Smith to say he was ok to play, even though the medical staff said no. This could be a weakness of Tony Smith of pushing his big name players too far.'"
He's left anyone out this season who hasn't been fit. When we're at the stage of the season where it might be necessary to take a chance on someone. As regards 'The World according to Keefe,' all I'll say is that sensationalism sells and there is such a thing as poetic licence.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"He's left anyone out this season who hasn't been fit. When we're at the stage of the season where it might be necessary to take a chance on someone. As regards 'The World according to Keefe,' all I'll say is that sensationalism sells and there is such a thing as poetic licence.'"
He also left players out at Leeds when not fit throughout the season. But when it really mattered he took the risk, despite his medical team telling him no.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You won the hub cap which is worth nowt with out the big prize!
Ask Leeds fans! What did Leeds win in 05? WCC challenge and nothing else! Finishing top means nothing if you don't win the GF! It means something to wire fans because you haven't won a GF.'" --yawns-- like i said,not going over that topic again
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He also left players out at Leeds when not fit throughout the season. But when it really mattered he took the risk, despite his medical team telling him no.'"
You're not getting me, or are you believing everything Keith Senior says?
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| There's 2 ways of looking at the '18' points we 'gave away'.
1. Grix pass - definately a bit risky - but those sort of passes have been coming off throughout the year. Was Atkins standing too wide, had Hall come in, was the pass too weak?
2. Grix grab on Rob Burrow - Rob Burrow doing what Rob Burrow does best
3. Bridge poor tackle on Webb, or a good step by Webb wrong footing Bridge?
We weren't at our best but fair play to Leeds. They played their part too and stepped up a gear. Unfortunately we went done one.
King was fantastic for us and Riley had a very good game.
It didn't seem like the forwards dominated like they have done previously.
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| I think it is amazing how much Riley has improved. With a bit of space he looks threatening all the day. His defence however is still a weakness. That missed tackle first half was awful, worse than Bridge's. Though I don't recall any Warrington play missing a tackle so easily as Bridge. Disappointing
Grix was at fault from Burrow break, but Burrow is class. Atrkins could have covered better once it was clear that Grix had been done.
I think in hindsight Westwood shouldn't have played. He wasn't fully fit, and I think that has a negative effect on the rest of the players.
As good as Smith is he still needs to resolve our defensive issues at the ruck area. Our rivals are superior in that area. It cost us on friday, and it cost us in the quarter finals of the cup.
How did we score 3 tries off ref errors? D
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