Best player in an England shirt tonight outstanding

Totally agree..thought Myler was good too. Think it's time for Sinfield, Peacock and maybe Moz to give it up now.

Myler was only seen when graham broke my mrs asked me about 2 mins before his try if he was playing

I dont want to start a big debate but he's a back up player thats it offers nothing else imo

Sounds like your missus is as clueless as you. And that's saying something.

No he didn't get involved one bit in attack catch and pass look at chase and leuluai thats how half backs should play taking the line on from time to time

Westwood has to be the most under rated player in SL.....I'd have him in a Wigan shirt over any other player in the England team on that performance.

Sinfield has to be the most over rated player in SL !

could`nt get interested in the game..no atmosphere and it seemed to be played in exhibition mode..end of the day it proves nothing we`ll still get beat by the aussies and kiwis..we simply not good enough on the international stage...more importantly did any of our players get injured and will any of our players double up for the salford game

Have to disagree with that, apart from supporting James graham's fine break for a simple run in i thought he was fairly anonymous as were both our half backs, his kicking from hand wasn't the best either.

Robinson was England's most dangerous player especially in the first half, James Graham best in the forwards and Sam Tomkins did 2 great try saving tackles. Chris Bridge got no quality ball so wasn't really involved, Brett Hodgson almost blew it for the Exiles when he cut back inside and went for glory rather than passing to supporting players on his right for a simple try.

can we have a thread without taking the out of KW for once please chaps, he happens to be correct on the westwood front.

Some would say the myler front aswell

Its not his game - he's a support player. TS has developed his defence which was spot on tonight.

It's hard to hold back on you KW, but this time I will. Westwood was tremendous tonight. I think Myler suffered because Sinfield seemed totally lost playing at 6. He and Peacock were picked on past reputation, not on recent performance, and Ryan Hall looked like he'd been training at MacDonalds all week. Myler was actually involved in 2 try saving tackles, as was Sam, but as has often been said on this site, his style of play is not being the number one organiser, he just is not that type of player, and there is no point in McNamara putting him in that role.
By the way, how did the TV thing go?

Myler just still has to add a LOT more to his game for me to be considered regularly for England.

He is a fantastic support player, probably the best in the league, but to be on the shoulder of a break, you have to create the opportunities in the first place. Those type of chances come steadily in SL, and against France, but against the top sides they need to be created and as such you can't rely on only 1 HB to do that. Unfortunately for England tonight there were no half backs, just a great run from James Graham (who is a half back in his head tbf!).

Lomax would have been in the side tonight ahead of Sinfield for me, Myler would still probably have made the side but probably just through lack of other options at the minute.

He is still very young though, and is still one of the better players in the league. He needs to just start stalking Briers so he can at least begin to show some semblance of being able to control a side.

Sinfield shouldn't be near a england shirt is is dire

I put the blame on big mac for playing myler because he cant change the way he plays overnight and his style is not what england need, we needed brough but sods law took that option away from us

I posted players on our forum players who need dropping for me are-Hall,Myler,Sinfield,peacock and i'll add morley why whelam and yeaman didn't get picked is pretty mind boggling

The show is tomorrow i booked ibis but had to unbook it cause my mate couldn't come down tonight so we are having a road trip set off at 5am

Maybe go back to the old days and play a full Wigan side eh KW....?
Do you honestly think Yeaman and Welham are better options at centre than Bridge and Shenton...?

Westwooooood ............

No dont go back to the olds days and play all wigan i like the mix of players from diffrent teams

Yeaman and welham are the 2 options i would have chose over bridge and shenton

Welham, no, no and no again

Bridge looked poor, but all the backs did cos they recieved no service from the halfbacks.

I'd have McGillvary in for Hall, keep Shenton and Bridge but just try and get some quick ball to the backs.

Yeaman deserves a place, but would he have done better Bridge and Shenton tonight?

I've said this time and time again
In International football, you HAVE to play people in their PROPER positions
If we already have someone better in that particular position, the coach MUST be ruthless, and either not play the superfluous player at all, or you have him on the subs bench. Why does Sinfield (a loose forward) play stand off? Do we HAVE to play him? NO WE DON'T. McBanana should have had some balls, and said to him 'sorry Kevin, I prefer someone else at LF, so I'm not picking you in the starting 13', but here we go again...we HAVE to find a place for him....CRAP....

We've been doing this for 15 years+ now, playing players out of position.
If a scratch team can beat us, on our territory, when we've played people out of position, what's a fully committed Aussie team going to do to us?

Play a team in their correct positions...and B0110cks to their reputations

No but it's frightening from an England pov to think that George Carmont at 33 years of age was the best centre on the pitch tonight.

I agree completely. BUT Sinfield has played most of this season so far at Stand Off. He's still crap mind but if people say Joel Tomkins should now be considered a centre, same goes for Sinfield.

BUT SINFIELD IS A LOOSE FORWARD
I don't give a flying 5h1t3 if he's played there (because Danny McGuire's been injured for 9 month) all season. He's out of position, and I'm afraid at that level, you get found out, and surprise surprise....we have been......AGAIN