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| If we beat Saints on Friday and Wigan win, presuming Wigan don't pick us in the club pick, who gets home advantage ? Us because we went through to the semi at the first opportunity, or Saints because they finished 2nd in the league ?
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| Also Wigan (if they beat Leeds) wouldn't be able to pick Wire (if they beat Saints) - the choice is only from the week 2 winners (when the picking team gets a week off).
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| What happens if Leeds win? Do, the winners of Saints- Wire have to do 'club call' thing? Now that would be Sophie's choice.
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"What happens if Leeds win? Do, the winners of Saints- Wire have to do 'club call' thing? Now that would be Sophie's choice.'"
Yes they would.
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| Jeeze! Hope its not a Warrington- Leeds winning weekend. Interesting, who would Wire pick if it was, say Leeds, St Helens or Wigan at home.
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Jeeze! Hope its not a Warrington- Leeds winning weekend. Interesting, who would Wire pick if it was, say Leeds, St Helens or Wigan at home.'"
If Leeds win we couldn't pick them so the only choice for us would be whoever won in week two.
If it was anyone from positions 5-8 I'd expect us to pick them but if it was Saints or Wigan it would be a helluva decision.
I personally think it's disrespectful to pick anyone other than the lowest ranked team, which would mean Saints. If we selected Wigan ahead of them, as well as insulting the league leaders, we would also be accused of running scared of Saints (who we could still end up meeting in the final) despite beating them two weeks earlier.
Either way Clubcall should be scrapped as it doesn't reward the highest ranked team, it simply puts a needless pressure on them if the media hype it up. On saying that I expect Wigan or Saints to have the "honour" so I doubt we'll have to worry about it.
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| The NRL has 8 teams in the play offs but they don't use club call? How does their system work?
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| Tony Smith should just flick a coin in the press conference if we happen to get clubcall involving Wigan or Saints.
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"The NRL has 8 teams in the play offs but they don't use club call? How does their system work?'"
Week 1
1 v 8
2 v 7
3v 6
4 v 5
The two highest placed winners go to week 3, the two lowest placed losers are out.
Week 2
The remaining highest placed winner of week 1 (often no 3) plays the remaining lowest placed loser of week 1. The remaining two teams play each other with home advantage going to the winner of week 1.
In week 3 the highest placed winner in week 1 will play the lowest placed winner of week 2. The other winner of week 1 will play at home to the other winner of week 2. Winners go to the Grand Final.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_SystemBut if thats to confusing, heres Wikipedia.[/url
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| Quote ="keithcun"Tony Smith should just flick a coin in the press conference if we happen to get clubcall involving Wigan or Saints.'"
I was thinking of that haha would get rid of the motivational push the oppostion would get from the coach saying they think we are the easy team.
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| Insulting to Wigan eh...........i choose that i love to insult Wigan
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| I'd pick Wigan.
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| im confused...so if we and wigan win we both go thru to the semi`s.that i understand...but can wigan still pick us in the semi`s..iif so its the most stupidist thing going.cos we finish 3rd and end up being away twice
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| i'd pick wigan.
look at the facts.
We beat Wigan twice this year. (solo's try counted in my fairytale world) Beating them once emphatically.
We ARE scared of Saints. Well not exactly but i always feel uneasy when it is us vs them. I think the team feels the same. Hopefully we will start winning soon so it doesn't scare the new signings too much. Us fans realize it has been a long time in the cold.
I always think Saints play a sexier ru gby that is harder to beat IMO.
Wigan it is and i think they would really fear us the week before the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"im confused...so if we and wigan win we both go thru to the semi`s.that i understand...but can wigan still pick us in the semi`s..iif so its the most stupidist thing going.cos we finish 3rd and end up being away twice'"
No they couldn't. If we beat Saints we're at home in Week 3 AND if Leeds beat Wigan, Wire get ClubCall, to choose anyone except Leeds. If Wigan beat Leeds, they get ClubCall, to choose anyone except the winners of Saints Warrington.
I think the system may need re-working, given that so many RL followers can't get their heads round it.
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| It really aint that hard!!!
Although the fact that we could end up with a reply of week 1 in week 3 does sound a bit of a bore. It is always going to be the most likely outcome. The top 4 are are going to end up in week 3 unless beaten by a one of brilliant peformance from a 5-8 placed team in week 2.
Although they do say to be true champions you have to beat the best. So if we do end up Playing Saints twice and then Wigan or Leeds in the Final. What a good 3 games that will be!!!!
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| Quote ="worthing wire"No they couldn't. If we beat Saints we're at home in Week 3 AND if Leeds beat Wigan, Wire get ClubCall, to choose anyone except Leeds. If Wigan beat Leeds, they get ClubCall, to choose anyone except the winners of Saints Warrington.
I think the system may need re-working, given that so many RL followers can't get their heads round it.'"
right i get it now..cheers mate
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| Quote ="wanderingwire"It really aint that hard!!!
Although the fact that we could end up with a reply of week 1 in week 3 does sound a bit of a bore. It is always going to be the most likely outcome. The top 4 are are going to end up in week 3 unless beaten by a one of brilliant peformance from a 5-8 placed team in week 2.
Although they do say to be true champions you have to beat the best. So if we do end up Playing Saints twice and then Wigan or Leeds in the Final. What a good 3 games that will be!!!!'"
The semis last year were between the sides who finished 1st and 8th, and 2nd and 6th.
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| I was convinced that Saints finishing 2nd get home draws all the way regardless of losing on Friday.
Then this post made me think, so I called my mate who has watched the Wire for nearly 40 years and lives and breaths Rugby League and he like me is insistent that 1st and 2nd get home draws all the way to the Final regardless of whether they win this weekend or not.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I was convinced that Saints finishing 2nd get home draws all the way regardless of losing on Friday.
Then this post made me think, so I called my mate who has watched the Wire for nearly 40 years and lives and breaths Rugby League and he like me is insistent that 1st and 2nd get home draws all the way to the Final regardless of whether they win this weekend or not.'"
He is wrong, as are you.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I was convinced that Saints finishing 2nd get home draws all the way regardless of losing on Friday.
Then this post made me think, so I called my mate who has watched the Wire for nearly 40 years and lives and breaths Rugby League and he like me is insistent that 1st and 2nd get home draws all the way to the Final regardless of whether they win this weekend or not.'"
Think about it, why would that make any sense, this is a know knockout competition so congratulations you lost but hey you still get the home draw. the most logical thing would be that the winner goes straight through to week 3 and will play at home.
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| The first and second are guaranteed home ties in the first round only. After that it is down to who wins the first round,
In the semi, the highest placed can choose their opponents out of the two coming up from the other rounds. Could be Leeds, Wigan, Hull FC, HUll KR, Crusaders or Hudds.
If we get beat on Friday we are guaranteed a home tie against one of the 5th to 8th finishers.
So whatever happens, we have one more home game
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| We're a long, long way from being given this decision, but if we were I think we should pick the team we consider to be the best.
After all, we have to beat the top sides to win the trophy, and in the semi-final we would have home advantage so why not give yourself the best chance of knocking out the best side when you're at home.
So pick Saints.
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| as regards to this silly play off system..the only thing certain is that no one is certain about its format
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