Yes or No?

I say yes.

we have a longer name.

No.

WUM?

yes there are more people in warrington so we are 'bigger'

Big clubs have big trophy cabinets.

Saints, Wigan, Leeds and Bradford are big.

We're developing.

We are nothing compared to saints at the moment

Although like Dropkick said we are developing, we have a better stadium than them

Did you know that the turkish use top man as a term for homosexual men, just letting you know

We are no where near as a big a club as Saints............Yet

and even that will change in 2012..

It does look magnif. I've been all the powerpoint deeley things.

But let's hope the rest changes to.

Like the decades of trophies.
The winning run against Wire.
The hatred for being the best.

As has been said Wire are developing. Could be a new day when Wire start [size=150Finally[/size beating St. Helens. They have already started to win trophies and are recognised by the whole league for that now.

In the same way as City are bigger than Arsenal.

I rate Widnes as a bigger club than Wire historicly.

*puts tin hat on*.

What are you basing your opinion on??????

Probably. Your stadium move saved the club from being where Cas are now. With that platform the clubs has been wonderfully managed and is now putting in place structures and the setup that will see the success under Smith continue long after he's retreated back to the NRL with Parramatta



Saints have been held back by the state of our finances which are a direct result of the state of our ground. It's costly to maintain and about as friendly to families on a Friday night as Afghanistan. If we experience a similar jump in support as Warrington did, the improvement to our finances combined with our investment in young players it could very quickly start looking rosy again for us.

Since Super League began Saints have won 14 trophies, not including the hubcap and been in 20 major finals. Warrington are better statistically I suppose with 1 from 1. We've also had far more time on the front pages of newspapers due to our rock n' roll players.

Not at the moment, but give us a few years & we could be

It's threads like this that sometimes make me embarrassed to be a Wire fan.

I'll have some of what your drinking.

Same haha its not even worth debate

Like the majority on this topic who havent got primrose tinted glasses on say.....YEAH TO RIGHT WE ARE....if only.Were getting there tho and will beat them in the play offs.I know this for a fact coz mistic meg told me

Strangely when you google saints, it says on the description "The official website for the Rugby League Challenge Cup Holders. St Helens RLFC"

How much under the salary cap have Saints been spending?

I'd rather have a small and full trophy cabinet than a large empty one.

If you ignore attendances, honours, fame and the fact Wire can't buy a win against us - it's pretty even.