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| yesterday all the wiganers were saying myler in the line up was a mistake after tonights performance but tony smith was spot on in smith we trust!!!
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| He will get 20 tries next season for us, brilliant support player.
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| Quote ="The Punisher"He will get 20 tries next season for us, brilliant support player.'" yh i agree with you there m8 last week vs wales was 1 off he hassnt played since july playing decent in defence aswell tonightt
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| So far tonight hand in first try few decent half breaks, Solo try in second to get England back in game, good support play for his second try an just then a great one on one tackle to stop the French scoring which then led to Hall scoring, not a bad night I do agree with what Carney said about him needing to boss that game more trouble is there a few out there who like to do that, am sure tonight will give him confidence for the next game should he play.
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| Blimey. Only two tries? Three doesn't get you a game the following week!
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| Disgrace of a tackle could of really done damage, gum shield came out an his eyes rolled back tough cookie this lad picked himself up had wanted to play on.
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| I would have picked Tomkins and I think he would have had a greater effect in the first half (and a better kicking game than mcguire or myler), but myler did great in the second half.
For me Myler and Mcguire are too similar, therefore i would play timkins or eastmond
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| That was a harsh tackle on Myler, he swung a clenched fist at him, BUT he showed genuine upset about what he had done, he was upset stood near the ref, he knew he was going off and wanted to make sure Myler was ok.
Once he was told his fate he ran straight to Myler and shook his hand, which to me shows good sportmanship, and i can respect him for that, despite a disgraceful tackle on Myler.
Good performance from Myler though, He'll do well with us next season.
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| What concerns about Myler is he doesn`t seem to take control of a game, yes he scored 2 tries tonight but he was supposed to be in the side ahead of Tomkins to lead the team around the pitch and organise, apart from one time when he gave an inside ball to Graham which was when Roby knocked on with the line begging i didn`t see Myler boss the game or lead them round the pitch with these organising skills that he is supposed to posesss.
Sinfield started slowly but as he got into the game he was the one that started to take control because it wasn`t coming from the half backs.
A good support player yes but isn`t that what McGuire is on the pitch for ? We lack any organisation in the half backs and someone to boss the game, we lack creativity and organisation at hooker and i`m not so sure we have a full back that is an attacking threat like the aussies have had for years and like the kiwis had with Webb in the past.
I just don`t see it with this England team, a great pack but it lacks a lot of organisation and a lot of out and out skill, i don`t think either centre is much of a threat at this level.
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| He took his tries well.
Tony Smith picked him because of his organisation to take control of the game.
Did anyone see him organise?
He certainly did not take control of the game.
He went well and I stand by my judgement that Tomkins should of been picked.
Well done though to Richie Myler I think there was pressure to perform.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"
Tony Smith picked him because of his organisation to take control of the game.
Did anyone see him organise?
He certainly did not take control of the game.'"
Read what i typed above.
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| Played his best rugby once the forwards got on top. ALL half backs need this.
Thought he had a good game. Well done Richie.
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| Thought he had a decent second half, nothing outstanding but then nobody was. Certainly played better than McGuire.
Be interesting to see if Smith has the balls to go with Myler and Tomkins next week.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Read what i typed above.'"
Mate that is the best post I have seen from a wire fan in a long time!
You are 100% correct.
It is down to McGuire and Sinny to take us around the pitch which I am sure they will do.
Tomkins is the best option by miles, what excuse does Tony Smith have next.
We need the most dangerous players out against aus, honestly Myler will not threaten them.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Thought he had a decent second half, nothing outstanding but then nobody was. Certainly played better than McGuire.
Be interesting to see if Smith has the balls to go with Myler and Tomkins next week.'"
I thought McGuire did ok, we need him out there against Aus IMO, if we beat aus then play Myler and Tomkins against NZ for sure. I would be tempted next week to play one of them off the bench.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Mate that is the best post I have seen from a wire fan in a long time!
You are 100% correct.
It is down to McGuire and Sinny to take us around the pitch which I am sure they will do.
Tomkins is the best option by miles, what excuse does Tony Smith have next.
We need the most dangerous players out against aus, honestly Myler will not threaten them.'"
In terms of setting up the play or attacking the line and in support play?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"In terms of setting up the play or attacking the line and in support play?'"
Hello Tony Smith.
Don't give me the, Myler is better an setting up the play and all the jaz, did you see that tonight? NO. McGuire and Sinnnys job!
So Tomkins should play...
Don't think I need to justify again, you know my point, you know Tomkins should really be playing but I see your point, but completely disagree.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"icon_lol.gif
Hello Tony Smith.
Don't give me the, Myler is better an setting up the play and all the jaz, did you see that tonight? NO. McGuire and Sinnnys job!
So Tomkins should play...
Don't think I need to justify again, you know my point, you know Tomkins should really be playing but I see your point, but completely disagree.'"
Jeez calm down Sams girlfriend
And you didn't even answer my question.
honestly Myler will not threaten them
In terms of setting up the play or attacking the line and in support play?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Jeez calm down Sams girlfriend
And you didn't even answer my question.
honestly Myler will not threaten them
In terms of setting up the play or attacking the line and in support play?'"
Read again, you will see I do answer
Myler did not set up the play tonight and Tomkins is better attacking the line and supporting.
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| Does it matter who we play against Australia? They will run us ragged
PS Mcquire at his best is better than Tomkins
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Read again, you will see I do answer
Myler did not set up the play tonight and Tomkins is better attacking the line and supporting.'" myler set nothing up mcguire set nothing up the hookers were total sinfeild ran at them and changed the game a bit and eastmond did ok when he came on
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Mate that is the best post I have seen from a wire fan in a long time!
You are 100% correct.
It is down to McGuire and Sinny to take us around the pitch which I am sure they will do.
Tomkins is the best option by miles, what excuse does Tony Smith have next.
We need the most dangerous players out against aus, honestly Myler will not threaten them.'" take your cherry and white tinted glasses of and get over it smith is the coach and he will choose who plays where and when so get over the tomkins thing
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| Myler was picked over Tomkins due to him being able to lead the side around the park better. I found that a strange reason at the time because i've never seen any evidence that Myler can do that. He looks to me to be a player like Tomkins that can produce individual moments of magic that result in trys and he came up with one stunning try tonight.
He shouldn't be the man under pressure after tonight. That should be Danny McGuire who didn't look capable of either directing the side or producing any Myler style magic moments.
If only Sinfield would step upto the international plate i'd be happy enough throwing the 2 youngsters in next week in Tomkins and Myler. A Sinfield on his Leeds form would take the oraganising pressures of the 2 youngsters and allow them to thrive. Unfortunatly Sinfield yet again looked a bag of nerves tonight bar a 10minutes spell in the 2nd half and has a huge deal to prove going into next week.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Myler was picked over Tomkins due to him being able to lead the side around the park better. I found that a strange reason at the time because i've never seen any evidence that Myler can do that. He looks to me to be a player like Tomkins that can produce individual moments of magic that result in trys and he came up with one stunning try tonight.
He shouldn't be the man under pressure after tonight. That should be Danny McGuire who didn't look capable of either directing the side or producing any Myler style magic moments.
If only Sinfield would step upto the international plate i'd be happy enough throwing the 2 youngsters in next week in Tomkins and Myler. A Sinfield on his Leeds form would take the oraganising pressures of the 2 youngsters and allow them to thrive. Unfortunatly Sinfield yet again looked a bag of nerves tonight bar a 10minutes spell in the 2nd half and has a huge deal to prove going into next week.'" spot on in fairness to myler he was droppedf like a bad openny out of the salford team once it came out he was leaving we all know he's a quality half as is tomkins imo they both are the future pairing if they carry on their respective forms can only be good for the international team so let's cut the bickering and get behind them both whilst they are playing for their country at least
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| Quote ="the original stevo" team so let's cut the bickering and get behind them both whilst they are playing for their country at least'"
Thats what i've not got all week when people have been going on about which should play. There is no reason to slag the other one off because both are classy young players and both will be very good players long term for this country.
The club loyalties should be put to one side and whichever one of them picked(or maybe both) cheered to the rafters because ones thing for sure we bloody well need them!
We've been crying out for some quality young halfs for years and now we have 3 of them yet all people can still do is whine and bi*ch about which one is better.
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