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I'm stuck in two minds as to whether this is a bad move or good.
1) Is he disloyal and might suddenly kick the toys out of the pram at Warrington, and not play to his best.
2) Or it shows his desperation and passion to pull on the Primrose and Blue?
Think this will only be answered by his performances, but think it warrants a debate anyway.
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I'm stuck in two minds as to whether this is a bad move or good.
1) Is he disloyal and might suddenly kick the toys out of the pram at Warrington, and not play to his best.
2) Or it shows his desperation and passion to pull on the Primrose and Blue?
Think this will only be answered by his performances, but think it warrants a debate anyway.
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2) Or it shows his desperation and passion to pull on the Primrose and Blue?
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Had to think both ways Mother Feka. I hope that as soon as he saw the Warrington offer, he was focused upon the upcoming season.
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I'm stuck in two minds as to whether this is a bad move or good.
1) Is he disloyal and might suddenly kick the toys out of the pram at Warrington, and not play to his best.
2) Or it shows his desperation and passion to pull on the Primrose and Blue?
Think this will only be answered by his performances, but think it warrants a debate anyway.'"
1)Wont happen at warrington with tony smith incharge , especially with him being the england boss, who would get on the bad side of the national coach,
2) Dont agree with his attitude at salford if wat mcrae says is true, should still give his all for salford till end of season
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| Quote ="healey08"1)Wont happen at warrington with tony smith incharge , especially with him being the england boss, who would get on the bad side of the national coach,
2) Dont agree with his attitude at salford if wat mcrae says is true, should still give his all for salford till end of season'"
Good 2nd Point - that's what concerns me a little.
If things aren't going right at the HJ and the fans get on his back a bit, will he suddenly switch off?
TBH - i don't rate him the fee we've apparently paid. And would have preferred Tomkins or Eastmond, but nevertheless i'll give him his chance in the side before i make a judgement.
Good Luck to the Lad - Make us proud!
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You've got this debating lark down to a tee.
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| The difference is nobody is going to come in for him and turn his head now because he is on a four year deal, so we can just say no, and also isn't he supposedly on mega bucks....nobody else can afford to outbid his wages now.
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| Any young players dream who starts out in the national league will be to play for a big club at some point, now that he has achieved his ambition and is at a big club then he should feel a lot more settled.
I bet he can`t believe it, from the national league to one of the big 4 in not time at all.
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| You can't blame him for wanting to move and making that known. But the response you would expect from a young player would be to knuckle down and work harder if anything.
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| Thanks for that sean, did you think any of that when st helens were filling iestyn harris's head with BS that you were intending to sign him?
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| Quote ="Finally Champions"msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_5545929,00.html
I'm stuck in two minds as to whether this is a bad move or good.
1) Is he disloyal and might suddenly kick the toys out of the pram at Warrington, and not play to his best.
2) Or it shows his desperation and passion to pull on the Primrose and Blue?
Think this will only be answered by his performances, but think it warrants a debate anyway.'"
3) Don't listen to a coach who is clearly not happy at losing the clubs most talented player
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"Thanks for that sean, did you think any of that when st helens were filling iestyn harris's head with BS that you were intending to sign him?'"
Well said that man!
On a side note can Mother Feka please now Fek off, you are a tit sir!
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| Was the England game before or after Good Friday?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Was the England game before or after Good Friday?'"
If you mean the game in France then it was well after I think, pretty sure we played Celtic the same game which was mid june.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"If you mean the game in France then it was well after I think, pretty sure we played Celtic the same game which was mid june.'"
You are correct. 12th June rings a bell although i didnt watch the game
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| Didn't Andy Gregory do the same at Widnes and then do the same to Warrington?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't Andy Gregory do the same at Widnes and then do the same to Warrington?'" and we all know who motivated him to leave warrington...? don't we rogue?(please remember our uncle mo chat for inspiration) you are truly placed on this planet to obsess with warrington, would you like a ticket for sunday? i'm sure it must be the belief that only wigan are allowed to win things that drags you to this site. face facts you love us, deep down inside, but the fact that you initially supported wigan leaves you with a hollow painfull feeling for which you overcompensate for by pretending you hate us
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"and we all know who motivated him to leave warrington...? don't we rogue?(please remember our uncle mo chat for inspiration) you are truly placed on this planet to obsess with warrington, would you like a ticket for sunday? i'm sure it must be the belief that only wigan are allowed to win things that drags you to this site. face facts you love us, deep down inside, but the fact that you initially supported wigan leaves you with a hollow painfull feeling for which you overcompensate for by pretending you hate us
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And who motivated him to leave Widnes, and Jonothan Davies.
Just to take a step back a little further, who motivated Murphy, Ashcroft, Chisnall, Potter, Clarkson etc etc to move from Leigh to Warrington.
Ossie Davies by any chance?
Isn't it exactly the same now with Myler?
I don't hate anybody but you would try the patience of a saint.
And finally, I've seen Wigan win more in my lifetime than Warrington has won in their history, so obsessed with Warrington, give over and grow up.
Enjoy your day in the sun, I would if I were you.
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| Rogues Gallery, I find your comments get more and more unbelieveable. You also have the audacity (as a Wigan Fan) to call St Helens cheats when it was shown and proved that Wigan cheated the Salary Cap by over 250,000. Wigan may have won more than us in the past. You've also won a couple of things that we've never won. One is the World Club Championship (and believe it or not, myself and quite a few other Wire fans were there on that night in 1987 cheering you on), but you've also won something else that we've never won, and probably never will. You've won the Second Division Championship, which no Wigan fan ever seems to remember. Now go back to your Cherry and White self-indulgent Site and leave us while we bask in our moment in the Sun.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Rogues Gallery, I find your comments get more and more unbelieveable. You also have the audacity (as a Wigan Fan) to call St Helens cheats when it was shown and proved that Wigan cheated the Salary Cap by over 250,000. Wigan may have won more than us in the past. You've also won a couple of things that we've never won. One is the World Club Championship (and believe it or not, myself and quite a few other Wire fans were there on that night in 1987 cheering you on), but you've also won something else that we've never won, and probably never will. You've won the Second Division Championship, which no Wigan fan ever seems to remember. Now go back to your Cherry and White self-indulgent Site and leave us while we bask in our moment in the Sun.'"
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Rogues Gallery, I find your comments get more and more unbelieveable. You also have the audacity (as a Wigan Fan) to call St Helens cheats when it was shown and proved that Wigan cheated the Salary Cap by over 250,000. Wigan may have won more than us in the past. You've also won a couple of things that we've never won. One is the World Club Championship (and believe it or not, myself and quite a few other Wire fans were there on that night in 1987 cheering you on), but you've also won something else that we've never won, and probably never will. You've won the Second Division Championship, which no Wigan fan ever seems to remember. Now go back to your Cherry and White self-indulgent Site and leave us while we bask in our moment in the Sun.'"
No Wigan fan will remember it because we didn't, York won it.
If you're going to argue at least get your facts right. By the way that was one of the most enjoyable seasons I have ever had. We met lots of true RL fans who supported their teams and the game without any of the pretense that they were great.
It was humbling at times you should try it. In Australia last year some of the most passionate supporters were from the likes of Barrow, Whitehaven, Doncaster and Rochdale.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And who motivated him to leave Widnes, and Jonothan Davies.
Just to take a step back a little further, who motivated Murphy, Ashcroft, Chisnall, Potter, Clarkson etc etc to move from Leigh to Warrington.
Ossie Davies by any chance?
Isn't it exactly the same now with Myler?
I don't hate anybody but you would try the patience of a saint.
And finally, I've seen Wigan win more in my lifetime than Warrington has won in their history, so obsessed with Warrington, give over and grow up.
Enjoy your day in the sun, I would if I were you.'"
get your facts right, davies left widnes because they could no longer afford him. am i upsetting you ? i'm older than you so remember a few more warrington wins than you, i also have the belief and insight that wigans glory years had a detrimental effect on the game. it must have been fun being a wigan fan, but by eck it was boring for the rest of us!
yes the myler thing is the same, we poached him from salford, however the rules have been balanced out to give every team a fair shout at it( the dreaded communist cap, as you pies call it)
you still know deep down your a wire "methinks he does protest too much" springs to mind
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| OK, so you were runners up to York, the fact is that we have never been below the top level of RL, and are never likely to.
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"get your facts right, davies left widnes because they could no longer afford him. am i upsetting you ? i'm older than you so remember a few more warrington wins than you, i also have the belief and insight that wigans glory years had a detrimental effect on the game. it must have been fun being a wigan fan, but by eck it was boring for the rest of us!
yes the myler thing is the same, we poached him from salford, however the rules have been balanced out to give every team a fair shout at it( the dreaded communist cap, as you pies call it)
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How old are you?
My first Challenge Cup final was 1959.
My fist game was in 1948 (but I don't remember it) The first game I remember was Wigan v Halifax in the Challenge Cup Semi T Odsal in 1956.
I support the cap, but I think it should be based on a percentage of a clubs income.
Feel free to out any of my posts and feel free to point out where they are anti cap.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How old are you?
My first Challenge Cup final was 1959.
My fist game was in 1948 (but I don't remember it) The first game I remember was Wigan v Halifax in the Challenge Cup Semi T Odsal in 1956.
I support the cap, but I think it should be based on a percentage of a clubs income.
Feel free to out any of my posts and feel free to point out where they are anti cap.'" bloody hell i stand corrected! you grumpy old git! you are older than me! not once did i specifically say you were anti cap! they do however call it the communist cap on the pie site do they not? more importantly with the years i have on you perhaps me may now be slowly catching up now our fortunes have changed and i'll see more wire wins, confirming you've had your day. now it's ours i still think you holda special light for the wire tho'!the ammount of time you spend on here
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