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| I think the corner has been turned by Kingy after his brief moment of madness of hand gestures and poor form we are now beginning to see the real Matt King in terms of his perfomances and his body language seems to suggest that he is happy at the club. We are now seeing King receive the ball a lot more and utilizing his strengths. Yesterday at Huddersfield he was shouting for the kick from Briers to the in goal, it’s a shame the execution wasn’t there!
But sadly his former 'partner in crime' is languishing in the reserves. Nothing against Johnson, he is solid defensively but he aint a winger, his pace is non existent anymore. And Johnson is far from good under the bomb as the Giants found out yesterday!!! I was watching a re-run of the Penny try v Saints last year in the cup (the one where Monaghan flicked it to Hicks and Penny outpaced Long and Meli!) and thought that no way in a million years would any other SL side not want to utilise his pace. Not many wingers in the world would have scored that try, deffo not Johnson anyway!!! Look at how Saints persevered with Gardner who was a mistake machine in the past but is now Englands first choice winger.
I would like to think that under Smith's coaching we could again see the King and the Prince re-united!
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| Looking back to his two try performance against Leeds at Headingley, superb wingers tries. The day KP announced himself on the SL scene.
As we are about to sign another winger, will his future be at another club?
I think it will be criminal if he leaves, but I'm sure TS must have big plans for him.
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| With Hicks and Riley playing so well and Mathers the next back in line to make the squad, Penny may have to wait a fair while.
Why change a winning formula?
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"With Hicks and Riley playing so well and Mathers the next back in line to make the squad, Penny may have to wait a fair while.
Why change a winning formula?'"
Exactly, i believe that the progress of Warrington Wolves is more important than the progress of Kevin Penny. If he gets left behind and the club moves along without him, then we move on end of story. For the time being he has got to continue to work hard in reserves and get on with it and wait for his next opportunity.
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| Quote ="The Casual Des"And Johnson is far from good under the bomb as the Giants found out yesterday!!!'"
Didn't he get a good catch yesterday, jumping in ahead of Riley?
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Didn't he get a good catch yesterday, jumping in ahead of Riley?'"
Am sure that was Hicks, or Hicks did something similar to that. Johnson does look weak under the high ball, not confident at all as he let another one bounce. Not a winger.
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| Quote ="Supreme Optimist"Am sure that was Hicks, or Hicks did something similar to that. Johnson does look weak under the high ball, not confident at all as he let another one bounce. Not a winger.'"
Hicks did on far side (did a little jump). But was thinking of the one on the left side towards south stand.
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| no way will penny be in the first team anytime soon!
his perfomances for the reservers show nothing to warrent a first team place. his positioning is poor and his defence isnt upto first team level.
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| Yeah but he has one thing that the current backline lack - pace. Okay Hicks aint no slouch and neither is Riley but can you say that they have the same speed as Prince Penny?
Positioning can be worked on! Look how Wigan improved Martin Offiah from a raw speed machine!
Maybe a move to another club would be the best move for him as a player?? I would hate for him to be remembered as a player with blinding pace who never really made the grade.
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Didn't he get a good catch yesterday, jumping in ahead of Riley?'"
Johnson Hicks and Even Rauhihi "jumped in ahead" of Riley .......
which suggests to me there is a lack of confidence in Riley himself to take kicks ...or there is a lack of confidence in his team mates with him....either way I think he (Riley) will make way for Mathers
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| interesting the take on Johnson though I think he has come up with some dodgy handling in the last few games (as well as showing little pace and poor defence getting done on the outside by the Cas winger).......I dont understand why its not bitched about more by some of those with a "knowledge" of the game
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"interesting the take on Johnson though I think he has come up with some dodgy handling in the last few games (as well as showing little pace and poor defence getting done on the outside by the Cas winger).......I dont understand why its not bitched about more by some of those with a "knowledge" of the game'"
Those with a knowledge of the game know that Johnson is not a three quarter.
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| I think it is more of a case of who will take Penny off our hands rather than when will he be back in the 1st team ,he unfortunately was another one of Cullens big errors in signing him onto a lucrative long contract along with john Clarke which I think Smith will weed out in the end,we are still living in a Cullen era with all of his major signings still being at the club imo we only have to get rid of a few more and replace them with quality to be up there with the best challenging but I do think this season is too soon !
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"I think it is more of a case of who will take Penny off our hands rather than when will he be back in the 1st team ,he unfortunately was another one of Cullens big errors in signing him onto a lucrative long contract along with john Clarke which I think Smith will weed out in the end,we are still living in a Cullen era with all of his major signings still being at the club imo we only have to get rid of a few more and replace them with quality to be up there with the best challenging but I do think this season is too soon ! '"
When Clarke played so much better than Mickey higham yesterday I'm not sure its a big error.....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"When Clarke played so much better than Mickey higham yesterday I'm not sure its a big error.....'" I am sure you will be in the minority of fans who would say that or even think it if there was a poll Higham would finish miles in front of Clarke who by the way was garbage yesterday !
Clarke was the 1 player who stood out for the wrong reasons he was poor !
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| IMO Grix will make way for Mathers with Riley on the wing and Johno dropping to the bench as a second row replacement
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| Clarke was head and shoulders above Higham yesterday. Oh my god.
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| Quote ="Lefty"Clarke was head and shoulders above Higham yesterday. Oh my god.'"
Ditto, thought he played well too.
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| But he still gets booed
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"But he still gets booed
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Don't forget it was Clarkes fault though
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Don't forget it was Clarkes fault though
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I miss wedge more......
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| Quote ="Wedge>Anderson"I miss widge more......'"
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"I am sure you will be in the minority of fans who would say that or even think it if there was a poll Higham would finish miles in front of Clarke who by the way was garbage yesterday !
Clarke was the 1 player who stood out for the wrong reasons he was poor !'"
I'm afraid youre currently in the minority - because I also think Clarke had a good game yesterday.
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| Quote ="Tones Tackle"edited for complete accuracy.'"
Well that’s just childish isn’t it? Weren’t you the pussy complaining about personal attacks or was that just my imagination?
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| Like Mathers & Blythe & Mitchell & Cooper and evryone else, he'll have to wait his chance. He's had one, did well. He'll be in credit in Smiths eyes for that, he was called upon late and let nobody down, as haven't Blythe & Mitchell and they find themselves out of the 17.
Vinnie Anderson found himself out of the starting side, low and behold he has a very good game. The players are learning, it's selection via merit, and should you not mee these high standards, there's half a dozen youngry, talented young lads snapping at you're heels for a game.
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