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| Can these 2 play together?
Again tonight you would hardly notice that Monaghan was playing
Briers drifted in and out but there is a big lack of creativity in our team and we seem to just be happy with playing up the middle for 5 tackles and a kick at the end
Briers' kicking on the last was an improvement today though
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| The first half you couldnt say Monas wasnt their, his tackling was brilliant. He got up and chased down everyone even after taking a shot to the head.
Briers was drifting in and out but I dont believe he is the top man for Wire anymore and havent done for a season or two, but we really miss him when he is off the field.
As for them playing together... No Monas doesnt seem to want to take control when Briers is around.
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| Smacks of Bradford under Noble 8-10 years ago. Those tactics will no longer work in Superleague.
Even though we struggled a little last season as a spectator I would much rather watch what Paul Cullen had them playing like than the 5 drives and a kick crap under lowes.
Might aswell do without the half backs and just chuck 2 extra forwards on.
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| I have lost all faith in Monaghan, he's just not good enough. Always looked pretty average if not poor.
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| Quote ="Wolfboy"The first half you couldnt say Monas wasnt their, his tackling was brilliant. He got up and chased down everyone even after taking a shot to the head.Quote
It's good having a half back than knows how to throw himself about in defence but it's not really what he's paid to do.
If he couldn't tackle but was brilliant in attack you could live with it.
For me he is a hooker
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| Quote ="Geordie"Smacks of Bradford under Noble 8-10 years ago. Those tactics will no longer work in Superleague.
Even though we struggled a little last season as a spectator I would much rather watch what Paul Cullen had them playing like than the 5 drives and a kick crap under lowes.
Might aswell do without the half backs and just chuck 2 extra forwards on.[/quote
We would definately do better like that our halves are not doing a job, we've now got arguably the best pack in superleague with nobody to guide them round.
Monas is a hooker
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| You wasted your money on Higham. You should have signed a good 6 and moved Monaghan to 9.
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| Briers plays best when he's constantly involved, but we seem to be playing with just the forwards on the first 3 or 4 tackles, so he's only getting it when we're looking to kick.
It's not a bad way to start the game, but we need to get a bit more expansive later on.
As for Monaghan, he should be on the bench as second hooker, 'cos he certainly aint a half back
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| Looking at the 3 performances Higham has given in a Warrington shirt you could hardly say he's a waste of money
The guy has been our best player in 2 of them and was in the best 4 tonight
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| Quote ="Hicks Is Gunna Score"Looking at the 3 performances Higham has given in a Warrington shirt you could hardly say he's a waste of money
The guy has been our best player in 2 of them and was in the best 4 tonight'"
He gave away three penalties and from those you conceded three tries. It's normal from him, look at his stats.
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| Quote ="Geordie"Smacks of Bradford under Noble 8-10 years ago. Those tactics will no longer work in Superleague.
Even though we struggled a little last season as a spectator I would much rather watch what Paul Cullen had them playing like than the 5 drives and a kick crap under lowes.
Might aswell do without the half backs and just chuck 2 extra forwards on.'"
Ive just said exactly the same thing to my missus.
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| Quote ="Geordie"Smacks of Bradford under Noble 8-10 years ago. Those tactics will no longer work in Superleague.
Even though we struggled a little last season as a spectator I would much rather watch what Paul Cullen had them playing like than the 5 drives and a kick crap under lowes.
Might aswell do without the half backs and just chuck 2 extra forwards on.'"
Exactly what I keep saying, it is boring and not very effective!
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| First half Monaghan in defense was awesome but both him and Briers were again non existent in attack.
Second half Monaghan and Briers defense was woeful and both were still non existent in attack.
I don't think they can play together and as Ive said in the past i would like to see Monaghan play along side Bridge.
I do however think Briers's kicking game improved on recent displays.
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| Quote ="Geordie"Smacks of Bradford under Noble 8-10 years ago. Those tactics will no longer work in Superleague.'"
While Lowes was there by any chance???
I honestly think Lowes has got us playing that kind of RL. At least with Cullen we played some lovely attacking rugby. It may not always have come off and we may have dropped the ball a lot but we played with flair and emulated Saints. Now not only are we playing boring forward-heavy rugby, we're playing rubbish, boring, forward-heavy rugby.
I think Lowes is trying to move as far away as possible from what Cullen has us working towards and that is not doing us any good at all when we have some cracking talent in our backs.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"While Lowes was there by any chance???
I honestly think Lowes has got us playing that kind of RL. At least with Cullen we played some lovely attacking rugby. It may not always have come off and we may have dropped the ball a lot but we played with flair and emulated Saints. Now not only are we playing boring forward-heavy rugby, we're playing rubbish, boring, forward-heavy rugby.
I think Lowes is trying to move as far away as possible from what Cullen has us working towards and that is not doing us any good at all when we have some cracking talent in our backs.'"
best post tonight spot on
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| Briers is finished.
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| NOTHING Mr Lowes has done, on the showing of tonight is showing ANY progress.
Clearly he can't cut it as has been demonstrated in the last two games/
Two second halves where we don't score - end of
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| Quote ="Southstander05"Two second halves where we don't score - end of'"
Actually I think you'll find we scored at the beginning of the second half at Saints...
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| Quote ="Southstander05"NOTHING Mr Lowes has done, on the showing of tonight is showing ANY progress.
Clearly he can't cut it as has been demonstrated in the last two games/
Two second halves where we don't score - end of'"
I don't know, your pack is alright. Morley is not playing at the level his wages suggest he should now, but Carvell is playing well. Lowes is trying to turn you into Bradford, only you've got no outside backs where Bradford had Vainikolo, Hape.
Your halfbacks are easily the worst pairing in Super League.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I don't know, your pack is alright. Morley is not playing at the level his wages suggest he should now, but Carvell is playing well. Lowes is trying to turn you into Bradford, only you've got no outside backs where Bradford had Vainikolo, Hape.
Your halfbacks are easily the worst pairing in Super League.'"
Wire have a similar problem to what we have at Wigan (but at least our players are 10 years younger)
You have two 7's and no 6.
As I've said on another thread you wasted your money on one trick Mick. It would have been far better spent on a decent halfback and moved Monaghan to 9.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Briers is finished.'"
N'ah mate he's only just started.
There's a lock in down at the bulls head tonight.
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| Quote ="Roger Whittakers Penis"N'ah mate he's only just started.
There's a lock in down at the bulls head tonight.'"
The Billinge Arms is where Briers and Gleeson can often be found staggering around.
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| There's a combination of can't run (Monaghan) and won't run (Briers)...and if your halves don't run at the defence all that the opposition have to do is pick up the support runners...
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| Quote ="Southstander05"
Two second halves where we don't score - end of'"
Scored at Saints.
HTH
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| I thought last week that maybe you were just bettered by a superb side. Tonight showed me that I was wrong.
You guys deserve better than that. There seems to be a common theme at recent under achievers: learnt all they know at the Dulls. Noble, McNamara and Lowes.
For me, the best business of the winter was Brown going to Hudds. I think maybe you would have been better hanging on to Cullen until you could find a coach, rather than just appointing the drive and drive of the Bulls.
Alright, I'm a Wakey fan, but like all of us, I am a fan of the greatest game, and I want some other team to break the top two monopoly, and for as long as you and Wigan put up with more Bulls rejects, it's not going to happen.
Good luck, but don't start the revival next week.
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