There was a thread about 'how to beat Leeds' and it worked so this one may...



. What is the key to beating Saints, weaknessess etc?

Come on the Wire. NOW the WirE.

all we need at this stage is the mentality to win.

We are the better team ATM. Hammer the wings and create havoc with high balls to young erm foster... (i think) and we are winning by 30.

1.Take out Foster so he can't kick the goals
2.Tie anyone who can kick a drop goals boots together
3.Bribe the ref to get Cunningham sent off so he can't score in the last minute

Nail on the head.

We're capable of doing anything to any team; it's just that we need to believe we can do it against Saints.

just go out and do the job we no we can win

innit......

Down the middle and quick play the balls. Beats them every time.

Also as above the high kicks to Foster with king or atkins contesting them isn't going to be easy for the yound lad.

agree 100% in fact the last 2 years has been down to this "physological" advantage we're more than capable just need to believe in ourselves

keep peppering nervous nerys on the wing and i dont mean foster....sooner or later he`ll cock up....

score more points than they do.

Beat me to it...

Warrington aren't that good that you are unbeatable. You just need to play better against us. Some of your defending in the games against us this season has been borderline farcical and your decision making has been absolutely terrible. I'm sure the mental side of it is an issue, but I'm sure that once you get a good lead against us under Smith you will capitalise fully on it.

Warrington aren't a better side than Saints yet though, that's a myth. Your league position shows that, particularly as you've been largely injury free while we've had a terrible season with injuries. Not only have we had several injuries most weeks, but they have tended to be really focused on key positions. For example being without two props or three back rowers or both centres or both halfbacks at the same time. But with both our first choice halfbacks and potentially our backup for that position injured, the onus should really be on Warrington to win.

Warrington should throw everything at this game. Get the home tie sorted and avoid having to revisit KR when we could end up having a fully fit Eastmond back.

Hang on a minute,in febuarys game we scored three tries against you in 8 minutes,the kind of thing saints usually do to teams yet our defence is laughable.You seem to have a gripe about injuries as well to key personell one word conditioning is all thats required,Eastmond seems to get injured in every collision that he goes into and thats not right is it.

Do please kick to Foster. Go on.

Don't forget though, he won the match against Wigan at the DW by catching a high ball with a stream of cherry and white animals racing in his direction. But do please mistake youth for inability! That would do us the world of good.

Incidentally, Gardner helped us to win last weekend by catching not one, but TWO high balls, one under great pressure, so please - kick to him too!

Meli's in the centre now so he is unlikely to go anywhere near a loose ball. Thank God!

The best way to beat us without our first choice halfbacks is up the middle. Leeds did it twice. Without Pryce there our defence is weakened. That is now our weak spot but you'd get nowhere with it if Pryce was fit. Bear in mind, he was playing with his neck injury when we beat you at the HJ.

Your defence is far from laughable. It's our defence that has been laughable! The one element of your game that consistently let you down in the past was defence and Smith has tightened that up no end without spoiling your expansive style of play.

I think it's because our styles are so similar and the fact that both teams always put 100% into the games that the Saints-Wire matches are always so good to watch.

That your players don't get injured because they are somehow better conditioned is a myth created on here by children. You cannot condition someone so that they don't suffer physical injury, it's not yet possible. It's just bad luck, nothing more.

I conditioned my hands not to get broken by punching water instead of bricks.

Good for you. But if Tony Puletua and Keiron Cunningham jumped up and down on said hand with studs on, it would still break.

Wire's record this season is just down to luck. Leeds have had similar years. Bridge got a semi-serious injury this season, there is nothing to stop that happening to four or five players next year.

score more tries than them

They've already tried that in the past and still lost

What if they score 1 try and we scored 4 penalties ?

We have had our fair share of injuries this season - just that we have coped better than in previous seasons - league games only:

Carvell - broken leg - missed 8
Bridge - shoulder op - missed 9
Myler - knee op missed 7
Clarke - ankle - missed 20
Grix - various - missed 5
Higham - broken thumb - missed 7

Briers and Monaghan have also missed a few games - part inury, part rest

The good sign is that none of the injuries have been caused by poor conditioning / warm up - we have had very few pulls / strains etc

But lets concentrate on saints injurIes - they are the only team with such setbacks this year - what a shame !!

We all know, that IF we win, all the pundits will put it down to is the injury list Saints have.

Some quarters tried it in the CC Final, bringing up Peacock's absence etc. Its just a good job there were more level-headed people there who admitted we frankly blew Leeds off the park.

People have already said that if we believe we can, we will beat them. I think this is true. Throw all this hoodoo rubbish out and just get the job done lads. We can enjoy the week off then

Hicks missed about 5 rounds at start of the season
Briers got injured against Wigan in round 3 and didn't play again until round 10 in April