I think both have real potential. However I don't think either address our long standing issue of deep kicking when we're struggling for yardage out from our own line. Hayes defends well and has a nice passing and short kicking game. Leyland is quite an exciting runner and also appear to have a reasonable short kicking game. Looking forward to see how they do in preseason games.

We're not in for Sneyd, i can't see that what so ever. We've got Hayes and Leyland with Ratchford as back up. Sneyd isn't needed. Talking of Ratchford, has anyone heard how he's doing after his head knock on Friday?

[quote="Or thane":2w7gzoms]We're not in for Sneyd, i can't see that what so ever. We've got Hayes and Leyland with Ratchford as back up. Sneyd isn't needed. Talking of Ratchford, has anyone heard how he's doing after his head knock on Friday?[/quote:2w7gzoms] Ratchford looks fine in recent training photos released by the club. Good to see.

[quote="BOSS HOG":22j981fs]Ashton is definitely faster than him, is Dufty the other?[/quote:22j981fs] I seem to remember Briers saying (admittedly when Wrench was younger and before injuries) that Wrench was faster than Ashton over 100m from a standing start? Whereas Ashton is faster hitting the ball running, or something to that effect? Or maybe it was the other way round. I'd have to try and google it. Think it was in the guardian a few years back.

Hayes also in the pics…but not running…

[quote="easyWire":2acll0t9]I seem to remember Briers saying (admittedly when Wrench was younger and before injuries) that Wrench was faster than Ashton over 100m from a standing start? Whereas Ashton is faster hitting the ball running, or something to that effect? Or maybe it was the other way round. I'd have to try and google it. Think it was in the guardian a few years back.[/quote:2acll0t9] Dufty and Wrench would beat Ashton over 50m from a standing start. They both have amazing acceleration. Ashton is no slouch to begin with but he's only really super rapid once he's at full speed because he's more of a rangy runner with a longer stride. We played Wigan away about 3 years ago and Ashton got an intercept. Before he'd got into full flight Jai Field had turned round from running forward and caught him because of how quick he is off the mark.