I think it’s fair to say Dufty has some decent attributes but probably isn’t showing them regularly enough. When there’s a talent like Thewlis who’s come through the academy, and looks the real deal, whose preferred position is full back it’s easy to see why there’s a clamour to get him in there, so signing a proven quality winger (oh I don’t know, like Charnley maybe?) would make sense.

I don’t have a problem with pairing Williams with a half back who can just do the simple things really well, move the ball quickly and accurately with a kicking game that gets us in the right places on the pitch, a foil for a halfback partner with more flair and creativity. On paper that’s what Drinkwater should provide, in reality, like Dufty I don’t think we’re seeing his talent translate into performances on the pitch. Again with Dean and Hayes you’d really like to see them given an opportunity to see if they’ve got the talent to make it.

With Dudson, I’m not as apposed to him as many seem on here, but, I don’t think he makes the 18 when we’re at full strength, and that being the case, when we do need cover I think we’d all rather it be a prospect getting experience as apposed to a diminishing journeyman. I thought Thomas went well early on in the season when he had a bit of game time, ran hard and didn’t take a backward step…

I’d have no issue if Mautautia brought forward his retirement a few months, no issues at all…

[quote="Big lads mate":2a97gg9t]:PRAY:[/quote:2a97gg9t] I agree and like you I would have been disappointed if Wire had signed him. Big lad, but he wouldn`t have merited the salary that he would have taken off our Cap.

[quote="BOSS HOG":1ydhehgm]I agree and like you I would have been disappointed if Wire had signed him. Big lad, but he wouldn`t have merited the salary that he would have taken off our Cap.[/quote:1ydhehgm] He has signed new deal to end on 28. And Abdull has left Hull FC having not even played a game. Nothing saying why but he is now a free agent.

[quote="Snaggletooth":2c93xhyp]I dont know whether to laugh or cry at Redvee [/quote:2c93xhyp] Why would you cry? Has been quite entertaining (unlike their team) but now become extremely repetitive. Looks like the combination of 2 new wingers and Briers is going to get them back to the top (there are a couple of more realistic posters as well).

[quote="St Helens Wolf":3tp0aw3t]No idea about the validity of the information (I think that this was posted on Redvee by our old friend Saddened?) but I would be disappointed if we weren't making an offer to both Lees and Knowles. The fact that Saints haven't tied them down on extended deals before open season began this month suggests that they are open to moving on.[/quote:3tp0aw3t] It was. I'm making no claims of being in the know, just passing on what the Wire fans at work were speculating about. Joe Batchelor also rumoured to be on the outer, Hull KR fans mentioning him as possibly going there. Typically with Saints at the moment, we're linked with absolutely no one and we have about 17 first team players off contract and able to sign elsewhere.

[quote="Captain Hook":ftogfqoc]Why would you cry? Has been quite entertaining (unlike their team) but now become extremely repetitive. Looks like the combination of 2 new wingers and Briers is going to get them back to the top (there are a couple of more realistic posters as well).[/quote:ftogfqoc] I think most are just clinging to the hope next season can't be any worse than last season. Which is understandable, but I think most also have us well outside of contention for the trophies. There's only a handful who are delusional and claiming glory is on the way.