Looking back at it, it wasn't as bad as you think. Defensively we were sound for the most part. Two tries from uncontested kicks was dissapointing and Ryan Hall showed some class off the ball before walking through Russell & Ratchford. So from that point of view it was ok.

In attack it was a different matter .So many concerns. Brown was just as bad as last year. No plan, the same kick with no purpose, not once on the ground or on the line to test them.

Roberts was more of a concern. That performance was nothing to do with match fitness or new team. Continual blind alleys looking for runners who he'd never spoken to and had no idea what he was doing. His decision making was atrocious. Running at gaps that weren't there and ignoring spaces. BMM our big signing wasn't used properly. Two drives in the first half and a penalty.

Cooper, Goodwin & Philbin (to a degree) stand up and take the applause.

Oh and we never conceded a point when Westwood was on. For all the failings his advancing years bring you could see him organise our defence on our line.

I think so - we still got 50 mins of him. Also given we already have two props out, I think we would have been too lightweight upfront without him.

I suppose with the already missing it's an understandable reason but he could've easily been subbed off after only 5 minutes.

Yes only the first game but I still have not seen what Kevin Brown offers this team.He was gash last year + no better last night.Def on my top 10 worst ever Wire buys up to now.

A couple of bigger bodies missing but when you look at Cas and Saints benches tonight it makes you realise how good some teams are.

Wire look paper thin squadwise

Our bench is not inspiring is it? 1 has-been, 1 might-be, and 2 never-will-bes
Westwood
Philbin
King
Patton

It's not as if we have a quality packed 13 either. But - better than last season.

I wonder if Karl is still wondering why he fell 4,000 short of his sell-out.