I thought the system we had before this was fine. The RFL always trying to come up with new things. If it's not broke don't fix it. Would be even better with 14 teams.

The idea of carrying points forward into the play offs is to encourage teams to give themselves an advantage in the play offs by playing consistently well & playing winning rugby & not just settling for a place in the top 8.

Well that's one view and it did not pan out to badly for Leeds did it ??

Imagine we got into the 8s but top 4 mathematically impossible to get top4 and field a load of young players it will have an effect on everyone else in the top8 and not in a good way whereas if on zero every club has the incentive to try n win every game as they should do on a weekly basis anyway ! Would that maybe make the lls more desirable idk but if you can win the gf from 8th it won't necessarily be an indication of you being the best team in the league ??

It all depends on what is considered to be the top prize?

If you zero points of the top 8 what is the point of slogging your guts out to secure a decent play off spot. It's improbable but we could finis 8th and win the GF from an even start which would be nonsense and it would make a mockery of the regular rounds if we started level with say Cas' and how many dead rubbers would they be playing once 8th had been secured?

So you're saying the lls is pointless or worthless strange since you have previously put so much emphasis on last season being a success as we won it?? Put the emphasis back on winning the league and return to the top 8 being an end of season tournament that is also worth winning but not over the lls or cc?? Not new thinking just returning to a system that worked pre sky??

it would be hard to change people's mindset but we would have 24-28 meaningful league games, dead rubbers there will always be teams that are safe from relegation but cannot win anything they need to make changes and improve themselves rather than change the league structure so as many teams as possible could win it! And a few bonus trophies to win in the cc and premiership trophy too !!

LLS pointless? I'm saying nothing of the sort and I'm not sure how you managed to read that in my post. I said it would become pointless if all the teams started on zero as once you were guaranteed 8th it would all be about coasting and it all depends on what is considered the top prize.

I would support say a 14 team league with a FPTP championship and a separate play off tournament as pre Sky, but, I can't see that happening as our paymasters sky wont change their mindset.