Wigan may have lost finals, but you are the complete opposite to us in terms of game management. We have a knack for blowing leads, whereas you have a knack for coming back from deficits (or coming up with something to get the win in tight games). Not saying you don't have your problems, and I know there are plenty not happy with Wane.

And, as said above: you have won silverware in the last 4 years. One of which includes a piece we still haven't won by beating us from a 16 point deficit.

....and this!

Strange...We have kicked more goals than any other team.

We've got 100 from 133 goal attempts, or 75%, whilst Hull got 96 from 115, 83%, with Wigan 72 from 98, 73% and Saints 89 from 114, 78%.

There is sharply stepping inside to avoid getting bundled in touch which a lot of wingers do. Then there is catching the ball, stopping, running sideways 15 yards, and back another 5 before being smashed.

There was nothing intelligent or beneficial to Penny running around like a headless chicken half the time against Hull.

We have score more tries than anyone else. That masks the problem.