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| Well that was simply not good enough,for your own coach to say the other team wanted it more is very worrying!and Michael platt?!jeez that's embarrassing,the way the widnes winger beat him to that kick was awful and this is someone Harris brought in!
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| you were lucky to be even in this round of the challenge cup
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| We were terrible. Ref was terrible too, and despite how bad we were I felt we could have still won if one or two more calls went our way.
Missed mullaney and Johnson big time, without them we have no pace. I'd take mullaney over eden any day of the week.
If we had pace on the wings we could have scored more, several times our wingers were away but it was embarrassing how fast they were run down.
Tasi, hock, Hansen, chase, smith & tommy lee seemed to want it more than most from what I saw...from a lot of the others they didn't seem too interested or just weren't playing well enough for whatever reason.
New faces, same old Salford.
At least we played well for 10 minutes...if only we could bring it together for 80.
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| And I'm sure tommy lee was robbed with his second cobversion! He did alright kicking today & you could see how much he wanted it rushing those last 2 conversions.
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| Quote ="ellery on ice"Well that was simply not good enough,for your own coach to say the other team wanted it more is very worrying!and Michael platt?!jeez that's embarrassing,the way the widnes winger beat him to that kick was awful and this is someone Harris brought in!'"
thing is though, he got back , stole the ball , and bentham awarded widnes a penalty which they scored there 2nd try from , barmy .
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| Not making excuses but the new team hadn't clicked under Noble and then we bring Harris in who has obviously changed things. In the short term this won't help the players. A team with stability and understanding beat us today and nothing more.
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| it a shame the last 10 mins where not the full 80 mins it is worrying to see a squad of players looks so uninterested
all standing around , no one running on to the ball , no one backing up, only a few players looked like they wanted to win, hock being one of the best players on the park
chase had one of them days where nothing was working so let just pass the ball to the next man but this was expected of chase
the speed of platt when running back to have the widnes winger skip past him it was like slow motion credit for managing to tackle him tho
expected more from meli near the end being a ex saints player who has been involved in many last second try's to just look clueless when the ball came to him thinking the game was over because the hooter went
would not be to bad if we where seeing improvements but there is something going on behind closed doors
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| I'm sick of watching us cough up possession and make basic mistakes. We gifted Widnes, as we did with Huddersfield last week 90% of their points today. Certain players need a long hard look at thereselves. Gleeson and Platt would have been taken apart by most Championship teams today.
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| you cant buy a team some players are only there for the cash and was most surprised that we had more fans there than you the good doc aint happy on twitter maybe he is beginning to realise he bought the wrong club
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I'm sick of watching us cough up possession and make basic mistakes. We gifted Widnes, as we did with Huddersfield last week 90% of their points today. Certain players need a long hard look at thereselves. Gleeson and Platt would have been taken apart by most Championship teams today.'"
Yes we are having to field a few players way past their best this year thanks to Noble. It's nothing that can't be improved upon with a few new signings for next year and some time for Harris to mould the team.
Criticising the players on Twitter isn't going to turn them into a team of world beaters next week.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"A team with stability and understanding beat us today and nothing more.'"
This +1.
Betts has been at Widnes for over 3 full seasons - [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/9177699.stmNot Such A Drama When Cullen Went To Director Of Rugby[/url
Difficult for Harris who has only been here 3 weeks and the spine of the side had changed,again,and trying to bed in loan players and another home debut player.
Poor performance.Felt sorry for Tommy Lee who deserved better.Bit naughty on the other thread highlighting 1 single error by Tim Smith who was busy organizing and didn't expect the pass - thought his introduction spurred the side into some kind of action.
I expect a bigger improvement under Harris than there was after 12 months of Noble.
Rather be in a final at Old Trafford than Wembley anyway.It's cheaper.
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| Tommy wasn't robbed, he missed the kick. We lacked composure and pace.
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| I was surprised to see Brian Noble removed from post, but I think I'm starting to see the reasons. His legacy is a team with no pace in the three-quarters, no spark at acting half and no kicker. A three-quarter line of Williams, Gleeson, S'au and Meli just isn't quick enough for the modern game. Tommy Lee isn't sharp enough at dummy half, and looks much better at loose forward. Obviously, Iestyn Harris has taken steps to rectify this problem by signing Logan Tomkins. The lack of a goal kicker is just criminal.
We're back in transition, but, hopefully, a transition towards a more competitive team rather than a transition towards Bradford Bulls c.2001.
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| Quote ="year of the viking"...was most surprised that we had more fans there than you ...'"
Really? That's terrible. Do you have the figures to hand?
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| Apparently 2600! Can see the doc being in a foul mood tonight! We need to bring quality in at centre & winger! A proven kicker would be nice why didnt we go for tickle!?
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Yes we are having to field a few players way past their best this year thanks to Noble. It's nothing that can't be improved upon with a few new signings for next year and some time for Harris to mould the team.
Criticising the players on Twitter isn't going to turn them into a team of world beaters next week.'"
Who said criticising players on twitter would help? Unfortunately though, when you have fans who pay hundreds for a season ticket, hundreds to go over to France and are treated to a performance like that then they're going to vent their anger on social media sites.
I knew the attendance would be low, I said also said we'd be lucky to reach 3k. Hardly surprising.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Who said criticising players on twitter would help? Unfortunately though, when you have fans who pay hundreds for a season ticket, hundreds to go over to France and are treated to a performance like that then they're going to vent their anger on social media sites.
I knew the attendance would be low, I said also said we'd be lucky to reach 3k. Hardly surprising.'"
Sorry If I wasn't clear, I was making reference to the Doc's tweet just after the match. I can fully understand his frustration but you aren't going to be playing you're best rugby with new players and a new coach after just 3 games.
The players look tired. It looks like the training has been stepped up a few notches and some players look like they're fatigued at the moment.
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| Quote ="andyh0064"New faces, same old Salford.'"
In Harris's after match interview he alluded to the fact the losing culture/low expectancy at this club hasn't left the players even though it's a new team.
Wow I wish my boss paid me a fortune and took me to such far flung places as South Africa I'd be forever in his debt.
Nevermind we can concentrate on the league now staying in it that is.....
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| I haven't seen his post match interview. That's pretty bad though, considering we have almost a completely new team, as you said. If the team had played even half the match the way they played the last 10 minutes we'd have walked away with a win.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"
Nevermind we can concentrate on the league now staying in it that is.....'"
Yes just like the pre franchise era where avoiding relegation was viewed as a successful season and something to celebrate.
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| We have Been exposed to many times out wide, we have no pace out wide. Well done Widnes they took there foot off the gas and allowed us back into the game.
Teams each week target us in the 3 quarter line, we don't have the pace out wide. Platt was so awful but he was not alone. We will struggle to make the top 8.
Good fun being a Salford fan never mind off to Perpignan next week hopefully we will at least have a bit if sun.
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| I hate to admit it but it does look like Brian Noble was stuck in a time warp when he was recruiting players last year.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"I hate to admit it but it does look like Brian Noble was stuck in a time warp when he was recruiting players last year.'"
Step one of rebuilding. Bring in big names... Meli, chase, Morley etc to build some excitement through the club.
Rebuilding a club is more than just winning games.
Switching coaches after so little games hasn't helped.
You have a team that can compete for a top 8. Gelling takes awhile. You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.
Keep your chins up and think about last year.
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| Quote ="AntGiant" You'll be firing toward the end of the season as long as your outspoken owner doesn't keep putting a downer on everything.
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Sadly this is where it will all fall down. He should go on a 3 month cruise and see where we are at on his return.
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