You're not coming on here no more because so called negative (left wing not negative) views aren't allowed in your world. Another one bites the dust.....

you can't control the perceptions of the clinically insane

Should have reported him to the stewards at the time, the sooner idiots like that are kicked out (and hopefully banned for life) the better it will be for us all. I could probably point the people out to you as I'm affraid it's the same old morons week in week out (though one does post on here and comes across as being more intelligent than that but is a known trouble maker at football too). What gets me if I was that dissatisfied with watching Salford I wouldn't spend my hard earned.

No Dantes i got no problem with people putting there views on here even if i dont agree with them the only thing i would ask is to think first some of the stuff i have read is just total and utter nonsense. I am in a position that i do know how the club works and what sort of budgets we are working with and so it makes it even more frustrating that people with no insight post stuff on here that they know nothing about. One last thing i would say to anyone demanding JW should go is be very careful what you wish for! Also if you show me the queue of investors wanting to get involved in the club that may be a different story. In the meantime why cant people enjoy the fact we got a new stadium and a 3 year licence.

It's because in general us salford fans are the ultimate pessamists sad but true

And why is that I wonder? Is it anything to do with the 30 years of crap we've had to put up with?

Just a thought.

We don't have to put up with anything. We choose to.
If I had the time and could be ar$ed (on topic!) I'd quite like to see how many clubs have outperformed us in the last 30 years (on field success and solvency) and how many have either vanished or sit in a far worse position than we do. I've often thought we were over-achieving by existing in the top flight. It's all relative I suppose.

How on Earth do you equate your posts with being "left-wing"?

Understand what your saying, but we've had so many false promises throughout the years. Yes we've survived mostly in rugby leagues top flight and like you say that is an achievement, but we've rarely been competitive in the top flight (well since I've been alive anyway) and I'm bored of being the laughing stock of Super League. Its frustrating and bloody annoying going to a game knowing your going to get beat or turning up at a game knowing that there will only be a crowd of 3,000 there. All I ask is to be a competitive team in the top flight, look at Castleford and Wakefield for example, ok they've had a couple of seasons in the the lower leagues like us and have struggled in Super League in some cases, but both of them teams have also been competitive more times than we ever have, both have finished in the play offs more than us, both have had better runs in the cup than us. The point I'm trying to make is why can't we? All I hear is we don't have the money, resources blah blah to compete with the top teams and I agree, there's no disputing that what so ever. But do Castleford, Wakefield (Well maybe more so now) etc have the finances to do that? No, but yet they always seem to be more completive than us.

As for having a choice whether I go or not, well maybe I do. But just because I'm fed up like many others it isn't going to alter my choice. I'll be there this week against Widnes and I'll be there in 4 years time when we're not in Super League playing Gateshead away

I meant it tongue in cheek. I take it you have a sense of humour bypass

No, it just wasn't funny.

i totally agree with you. Castleford, wakefield, huddersfield, warrington, hull KR, have all had around the same finanaces we have been working with at some stage and their no laughing stock. They've risen above us vastly especially warrington huddersfield and hull kr. Wakey did go to the wall at some stage but they seem to have come through it and have a decent team folding havind seen them against widnes.

Sheffield
Gateshead
Leigh
Widnes
Halifax
Paris
Workington
Crusaders
Swinton
Oldham
Featherstone

...the list goes on of clubs who have had around the same finances (or greater) than us who can't currently claim to have risen above us.

Suggest we stop this argument now: we seem to have it on every topic no matter what it is. The fact is that two GOOD posters are leaving.

They'll be back methinks!

Good riddance.

The fact is this is a "supporter" forum, why DI continues to post on here when he posses no qualities of a "supporter" says allot about him personally. He won't support the club financially, he won't attend in person, and he has nothing supportive to say. So why does he come on a "supporters" forum forever trying to convince everyone that JW needs to leave? Because he is sad, and probably unhappy in his own life thats why. It doesn't add up does it - how sad is it for someone who openly admits they don't support the club to take a a vague interest in that very club then sit at home and type post after post of garbage insulting the club

Sad or what. (not just my opinion DI - that of everyone - except Mitie Mice)

"I want JW out, they won't get another penny from me, the players (nearly all of them) are rubbish, the stadium is laughable"

Maybe so, but as mentioned it's a "choice" to support this outfit. If you don't like it don't do it. I could understand if you were spending hard earned cash on the club DI, but you've openly admitted you're not. So you instantly lose part of your say on the matter.

I feel sorry for people who have supported the club for 30+ year's and have been active on this forum since it's existence only to have their general banter and discussion ruined and turned into vile insults & nonsense by people like DI and Mitie Mice.

The only way to get them to disappear as mentioned by many other's is to not rise to there bait. There only after an argument and a rise to make themselves feel mildly interested in there drone like existence.,,

Seriously boy's, get a life and leave the supporting to us men, remember you've made your position clear DI, you don't support the club, so fit in, or f.uck off
xxx

One word.

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How is it an agenda? So anyone who points out how amature the club is will have a hidden agenda? Me thinks not! Just because a select few on here see no wrong with the club, I suggest they have a wonder over to the facebook page! The tinted specs brigade would have heart palpitations if they started to filter over here....

Not my opinion Mr.Don't provoke on behalf of me.

Change the record Wooly back. How many times do you need correcting. I've supported Salford a lot longer than you, put a lot more monies in JAW's back pocket than you, so who are you to tell me to fook off. Ha Ha You don't even come from Salford you dicchead, so you f,uck off. I'm far from sad by the way i have a great life, have a beautiful Mrs, two wonderful children and job which has more satisfaction than you'll ever have. As for typing vicious posts look at your own postings lately, yeah all vicious and insulting.



The Salford public's attitude is changing towards JAW. You wouldn't know living in wooly back land. Everyone i speak too agree's the club is a laughing stock run by comediens.


What you're not understanding is. I was born in Salford. Raised in Salford. Still reside in Salford. My kids go to school in Salford. My life is Salford. I don't have to explain to a St Helens numpty who accuses me of not supporting my club when i've already explained i've put more monies in this club than YOU. Just because this season i've had enough of 30 abysmal years of torment i suddenly can't have a bitch and a moan because a numpty from St Helens says so. Fuc,k off back to your shlthole woolyback. I've got more say than you about the running of my club.







No seriously you get a life. Your attachment to Salford is due to a playing relative. Your support is false and timely. I do support the club but view the club would be better without the comediens running it. Even if it means dropping to NL1 for a few seasons to clear the ijit's, so be it. Then with everyone singing from the same hymn sheet to which it hasn't for 30 years thats when we'll finally get somewhere. So you've been corrected again. It must be your weekly fix.....

I can utterly understand your fustration DI, especially with the provocative statements assumed.

The tide is shifting, peoples attitudes are changing. I attended the four home clashes lately and witnessed this immensely. Persons on here appear passive to constant cock ups which have haunted this club for years, yet these same people whinge and grumble on here saluting the culprits responsible. Mind-boggling

Mind boggling it is BFW. Watch out for a bit of stick now

Snap, two great kids, gorgeous wife, and a nationwide business under my belt, which sponsors the club..that i'm guessing means I have put more money into the club than yourself ? when I first tuned a profit I approached the club with money with view to a sponsorship deal . I'm Salford through and through DI and only reside between Warrington & St.Helens because of business commitments, Is that ok DI.

And DI, you hardly need me accusing you of not supporting the club when you've publicly announced it more times than I care to remember. See Below.

"No It wasn't the snow what stopped me coming, i won't put a penny into JW'S pocket again with his pathetic mismanagements"

That's out and out not supporting the club, I'm not saying your reasons for not supporting are wrong, but the fact is you have nothing positive to say to boot, so you constantly bad mouth everything about the club and you don't support it with your time or money.....great, we could do with a few more like yourself....

You see, the difference between me an you DI is simple, I too see how badly the club has been run, and how JW could have handled things so much better, (that we agree on) however I have not thrown in the towel like yourself, spitting my dummy out publicly, while insulting everything and everyone at the club in the mean time. I have continued my sponsorship and stuck with it, whether that makes me an "ijjit" I don't know, however what I do know is I'm Salford through and through and will support the club & team no matter what, that's what a "supporter" is DI,

Oh and another thing DI, did you only discover the world wide web on the 26th August 2011 ? (i'm sure you've got a good answer for this one, no local internet perhaps!) Because considering you've been a fan for 30 year's and your so opinionated I find it very peculiar you only raised your concerns less than 6 months ago, haha.



Going back to my "problem" with you DI, yes you could be a little more tactful when you raise your concerns about the club and there owner,but you do have a right to an opinion and that's your opinion, but you don't stop there, its the likes of this:

"what a performance and they still get BEAT......god help us when we play bad as usual"

That being posted after I praised our performance and improvement against Wigan. It's that negativity which makes me question your happiness in life and whether your genuine or not, and if you are happy in life like you say then I'll leave it upto the forum to decide on what sort of "supporter" comes out with comments like that...

But going back a bit further DI it's this below that really get's up everyone's noses.

Unfound, untrue, uneducated, inept, incompetent, unnecessary, concocted rubbish, If you don't wince when reading below and bow your head in shame, then you should consider never returning to the club at all, because it's people like you spreading the bad word and negativity that the club can really do without. Your really not fond of the chairman are you DI.....




Thankyou for everything mr chairman
Thankyou for being in the bottom 3 again mr chairman
Thankyou for the blue seats mr chairman
Thankyou for selling our soul mr chairman
Thankyou for making us tenants mr chairman
Thankyou for another 25 years of pure 5hit under you mr chairman


Wake up people were doomed with this man in charge. what a joke.


Its wound me up to but JW is allowing it, and the next big thing will be curtains for us if he doesnt get this last chance saloon right.I Dont trust our board one little bit.


I except managers come and go.Nobody has got it wrong more times than JW for managers coming and going.I wish the board would get a grip just like you do gooders who cant see realism.


You can't seem to get through to some people on here. All im going to say on the matter, JW is the person who has put us in the 5hit, end of story.

Yeah the chairman may of put is hand in his own pocket on a few occasions but what salford fan would'nt in his position. If he was'nt making any money from salford he would'nt be doing it, come on. He certainly is'nt doing it out the goodness of is heart. (although he would want us to think that.) - [u=#FF0000That really says it all DI[/u


anythings better than this shower we have running the show at the moment.
But tbh i can'tsee it happening with our current debt situation caused through the great management of our owners.

Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of super league.

You cannot be 100% sure that there is any shortfalls. Who are you, JWs accountant. There is no way on this earth the board are doing this for nothing. End of story.

SO WHAT HE.S KEPT US AFLOAT WOW

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