just thought the whole "atmosphere " last night was strange,just seemed like lots of fans were just talking amongst themselves,about the state of play,stadium etc.....................weird

I have commented on the atmosphere on another thread. It was as suggested above more like mates chatting with some geezers throwing a ball around in the background. Without a new stadium i fear we will be consigned to the Rugby League backwaters for some considerable time. Looking at it in a mathamatical light, If we lose out in the next round of franchises thats three years at least and are SL then in 2015 going to give a franchise to a "failed" team. I doubt it. So in effect we miss out in 2012 and not trusted in 2015 making in 2018 before we have any relistic chance of getting back in, 9 years from now. I am only playing devils advocate here and not suggesting the above will happen but with the franchising system it can happen. I cannot see a time when our crowds improve in the next two years (i accept there are lots of reasons economically why fans dont come) to the levels required. As a team we have had highs this season but that last night smacked of the general malaise around the club at the moment. The moment Jeremy Smith turned his back on the play and the ball bounced off him was heavily symbolic. Players, fans and the SL are i fear all doing the same to Salford RLFC (Luke Adamson a rare and noble exception)
Introspective whinge over!!!

Thats based of the assertion that there is a team to be removed by then. Just cos we might fit the recommendations to be readmitted with a franchise doesn't necesarily mean one needs to be replaced. Hence the reason why alot of people believe it will be a closed shop in all but name.

Fungus, your right it is based on assuming someone gets replaced. That might be us or anyone who the SL see fit to remove. The crowd at the Barcelona hosted game last week will have had the money men of SL creaming themselves with excitement. IF a team is removed then maybe someone to keep Catalans company and further the expantion of the game may be offered a spot. Barcelona im sure resonates louder globally than Salford, Wakefield, Castleford et al.. as i say im just espousing possible scenarios. Being the Private Fraser type i am it comes naturally to be pessamistic

Down to £10 entrance for next season would see a lot more going, the price is just too much and that's why I go to 4 or 5 matches a season rather than 10-15.

He wasn't playing

I was actually looking forward to last night, first home game in ages, nice weather a chance to meet up with people again have a pint and a chat.
What happens...
An absolute joke of a performance.
Huddersfield were not much better and that is saying something.
Maybe they all know the stadium is not on its way so they think whats the point. Thats the impression I got, a team except Ratchford and maybe a couple of others who could not care less.
Sibbitt,Stapleton,Littler,Paul all know there time is up at the end of this season and dont they show it.
As for Smith, dont even get me started.
People keep saying the players in reserve are not good enough, well if they can not improve on that last night then we are in the $hit
Radical changes are needed, Lets try and put players in their natural positions. Get rid of the do not care brigade and guess what you can pass the ball wide mr Mc Crae.

i have never heard the shed so quiet as it was last night, fair enough it was a poor game i thought both teams were poor at times but even so there is usually a fair bit of racket from the shed, last night i heard only boo's and moaning
keep the faith guys, you've shown with your wins over us, bradford and leeds than you can mix it with the rest.

just some opinions and am ready to be shot down.

Firstly when you mioved the ball last night you looked quite good and entertaining..

Some good players in Ratchford, sibbit and the aussie prop ( forgot his name).

SELL MYLER NOW. Let him go and use the £250,000 to buy spend SC money and get 5 good players in . With Robbie going you will have good SC money left.

Bring some local kids in who are committed to the jersey.

Try to come to an arrangement with city and united to give them a season ticket for £50 for there season ticket holders limited to the first 3000. Fill the ground for every game and give the place a buzz. Better 5000 paying a tenner than 2500 paying £20.

the extra money from merchandising will make up any shortfall.


I am not sure what you are doing regards community development but why is yoiur team not packed with big rough tough black kids from Moss side. lat night and in our academy we are getting loads of afro carribean players playing and they are local kids.

Do not give me any sh!!te about Manchester being a soccer city. How many local kids can pay to get into city or united i am guesssing £500 for a season ticket. You can easily compete on price, excitement and with a few decent players really make inroads.

Salford, i would suggest you link up with United and become MURL. That will give you a huge level of publicity and access to markets which will make you stronger. If that is unpalatable to the blue half then you should become the Manchester mutants and become a Manchester team to get the support in.

I love salford and going there from the days i saw Keith fielding playing. But you are losing the opportunity to develop, holding RL back and unless you get the stadium will be out of SL. Rl needs Manchester and whether that is Salford or someone else then so be it.

Sorry, I stopped reading at that

its been a mixed season this year,when we first started we was getting batterd the likes off saints castelford wakfield and wigan at home!but we have shown we can beat teams like bradford leeds & huddisfield .thinking the season ending now they just dont look intrested.Its upsetting to see likes off a few weeks ago we was buzzing in the challenge cup at wigan bringing a thousand or more then weeks after a hundered fans! were letting the club down.ok the lads aint doing well but when have we ever done well in SL (apart from 2006).im hearing rumors about the staduim and its worrying cos if we dont get this done in time we wont be in super league again and wilky will see and we will end up like swinton

If last night was the worst performance people have seen in 30 years then they obviously haven't been going very often over that time span as it wasn't even the worst we've seen this season.

It seems like the doom mongerers are getting to everyone. The mood at the moment round here is probably less cheerful than at a wake.

I have to agree, i thought we defended well and the scoreline could have been a lot worse. I dont think there was any lack of effort.

Lets be honest, with the rumours about the stadium, if Salford were your employer you would be a little edgy at the moment.

If you are referring to me, well I've been going home and away since around 1970



The point I was trying to make, albeit with the assistance of alcohol, was that there was just absolutely nothing there last night. The whole team looked clueless with ball in hand.
I know there have been far greater hammerings, but in certain games that become a landslide score i.e. 96-16....you are simply never in the game against far superior opposition.
Last night, against moderate opponents, we were shambolic.

you are only joking of course



If Hudds had have taken their chances, it could have been all over by h/t

It was a little and I wasn't trying to knock you or anything

It just seemed like a bit of an overreaction. We did look to have returned to our early season form and I can't see it being any better next week against Saints. We were missing our 2 best players so far this season and with a new halfback pairing we struggled.

Come on JJ if you've been watching that long you know we've been hammered previously by many poor opponents (Cas at home a few seasons back 70 odd points etc etc).

It's always the case that the latest wound hurts most, but "poorest performance in 30 years" I doubt it

Only one of them struggled.
If he is on the pitch next week it will be a disgrace.
He should be sent packing contract or no contract.
Quite possibly one of the worst overseas signings I have seen pull on a Salford Jersey, and I have seen some bad ones believe you me.

Some ideas from Huddersfield why if you are sharing a ground with the football team you can do deals. I have been suggesting this for years, but it won't happen, City last season were letting Kids in for quid plus their under 16's ticket is £95 for the season thats £5 a game. United charge £190 for their kids season ticket. I have a lot of mates from Salford who attend United and have a ST but would never bother watching rugby (egg chasers). Most Salford schools do not play Rugby League and if they do it is not very competitive do to a lack of other schools to play.
As I commented in another posting when we were top we didn't get more than 7000 average. Manchester is a Rugby Yawnian city they have council funded rugby yawnian development officers and provide rugby yawnian summer schools.
Back to last night both teams were very poor so was the reffing, it did look like the players have been told that the new stadium is not going to happen and we will be stuck where we are for the next two years and then off to national league. If it weren't for Celtic McRae could get himself a record of winning more wooden spoons in two countries than anybody else. Again he showe his very limited coaching skills, regardless of the state of the game he just sticks the planned subs.

ok Adam, it [u[iwas[/i[/u a bit of an overreaction..

let's not argue about it, and you are definitely correct about having the best 2 players missing

smack on PR, he is a total waste of time and money

Friday,s performence was a complete shambles, There was no passion or effort the players did not perform as a team and looked as if they had been rounded up an hour before the game from the local park. Young Walton and Ratchford had a decent game and Swain and Cashmere were ok as for the rest of them, they might as well have stayed at home ( and don,t get me started on Smith and Littler). Hudds were nothing special and it is a game we should have been looking to win. A special mention for Thaler Im not saying it was his fault that we lost the game but his performence was nothing short of diabolical.

I can,t belive that a month ago we had over a Thousand fans at the cup game against Wigan and had been putting some decent performences since then its gone Fecking pear shaped. I often wonder if Mcrae knows what he is doing, His tactics are non exsistent, he continues to have players playing out of posistion and seems to lack any motivational skills. I feel like I did at the beging of the season were I could not see when we was going to win another game. I hope the players prove me wrong but if Fridays performence and attitude is anything to go by then I dont hold much hope.

Whoever signed him (Smith) should be made accountable because obviously they didn't do their homework.

I saw Smith playing reserve grade last year for North Sydney and he was absolutely diabolical