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| Quote ="Wirecutter"Why announce a fee has been agreed with Bradford before knowing if the player is even willing to talk to us'"
Because that is the way it is supposed to be approached.
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| I seem to remember that Griffin wasnt happy to sign at first. He then sampled the set up and signed on. Maybe if we could ask Bradford to put him out on a loan basis we can all have a look and just maybe he will have a change of heart. The Bulls seem to be wanting to be rid of him so surely a smart move.
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| Think its EW who wont sign for you guys, maybe hes hoping (no offence) a bigger club comes for him, sure his move is ok with us just his personal terms, he needs to sack his agent.
We would like to get rid he is a large drain on our cap and £100k would do us nicely.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Because that is the way it is supposed to be approached.'"
I understand that but it isn't compulsary by law to make public via the media that a transfer fee has been agreed before a club can talk to a player? The point I'm trying to make is why allow Bradford to make it public before talks had even taken place with the player or his agent. If it then doesn't happen supporters haven't had their hopes built up for nothing. All it would have taken was Salford requesting to Bradford that the offer was kept private until they had spoken with the player or the offer would be retracted.
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| Quote ="Marshy1""Unfashionable" what a ridiculous term. All Salford can be accused of is a lack of super league success.
Are you telling me that Warrington were fashionable a few years ago despite having won nothing for years....not a chance. The best player will always want to go to clubs capable of winning trophies and to achieve that takes time. It has nothing to do with fashion.
Start winning trophies and the best player will want to come simple as that.'"
I think calling Salford unfashionable is like calling a certain Fascist Dictator Naughty , I think more Pariah and I guess this senario has occured more than once without it hitting the press or forums , Noble's little Black book will have more cross outs than ticks and this will not be helping one bit. [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/4974441/Angry-Salford-owner-blasts-Ill-never-give-you-contracts.htmlAngry-Salford-owner-blasts[/url
Quote Start winning trophies and the best player will want to come simple as that'" Eh ? Who with ?
Whitehead is diappointing , not that he was a marquee signing , but in truth £100K could be better spent is the a silver lining
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| Quote ="Yorkshire_Red"
Speaking of announcements and so forth, you'll presumably be apologising for your posts about Salford having tapped up Whitehead I guess?'"
Dear Salford fans
Please allow me to apologize for what I said regarding Elliott Whitehead been "tapped-up". My behavior was extremely inappropriate, immature, and lacked the respect your club deserved.
It was embarrassing and I have now learned that nobody appreciated my poor behavior. In the future, I have every intention of curbing my thoughtless actions and learn to adjust my behavior befitting this forum.
Again, I am sorry for my actions and I hope that we can put this matter behind us. I look forward to visiting your forum again without upsetting anyone. If you have any thoughts in this, please feel free to share.
Sincerely,
Tigerade
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| Quote ="Tigerade"
[uSincerely[/u,
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Irony, I assume.
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| I wouldn't necessarily write this one off just yet.It may get to the situation that we are his only plausible way out
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"And I suggest if you are too sensitive to read honest criticism about how I think the club could have handled the situation more professionally, you may be better some place else. This is a forum for views and discussion, it's not a back slapping party.'"
It's nothing to do with my sensitivity (although I do bruise like a peach). It's actually to do with the fact you keep talking sh*t. Simples.
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| Quote ="middleman"I think calling Salford unfashionable is like calling a certain Fascist Dictator Naughty , I think more Pariah and I guess this senario has occured more than once without it hitting the press or forums , Noble's little Black book will have more cross outs than ticks and this will not be helping one bit. [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/4974441/Angry-Salford-owner-blasts-Ill-never-give-you-contracts.htmlAngry-Salford-owner-blasts[/url
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Three words - heretically determined individual.
Quote ="Singapore Steeps"It's nothing to do with my sensitivity (although I do bruise like a peach). It's actually to do with the fact you keep talking sh*t. Simples.'"
Please elaborate? Is it simply that you can't accept any constructive criticism of the club or can you not understand the point I'm making about keeping a lid on it before a deal is sealed?
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"And I suggest if you are too sensitive to read honest criticism about how I think the club could have handled the situation more professionally, you may be better some place else. This is a forum for views and discussion, it's not a back slapping party.'"
Not sure what your job is,mate.
Also not sure what part of your job qualifies you to tell the club how it could have handled the situation more professionally.
It seems to me that the club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.
Stick to your knitting
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Not sure what your job is,mate,although your name may give us a clue.
Also not sure what part of your job qualifies you to tell the club how it could have handled the situation more professionally.
It seems to me that the club were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.
Stick to your knitting'"
I offer my opinion as a supporter of the club for over 45 years on how I think the club could have done something better and it's frowned upon. I could understand the reaction if my views were emotive, personal, disrespectful and insulting but they are not.
I just find it strange there is no counter argument to my views only insults.
1. Stop moaning go somewhere else.
2. You are talking $hit.
3. Questioning what I a do for a living.
4. Mate (insulting)
5. Not being qualified to comment
6. Stick to your knitting.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"
1. Stop moaning go somewhere else.
2. You are talking $hit.
3. Questioning what I a do for a living.
4. Mate (insulting)
5. Not being qualified to comment
6. Stick to your knitting.'"
Ok,I disagree with your views.
I think the club acted correctly.
I think it wrong that you called the club unprofessional for proceeding through the right channels.
I was surprised that we hadn't tapped him up first,but there you go
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Ok,I disagree with your views.
I think the club acted correctly.
I think it wrong that you called the club unprofessional for proceeding through the right channels.
I was surprised that we hadn't tapped him up first,but there you go'"
I wasn't saying the club were being unprofessional for going through the correct channels that they went. I was saying they should have requested Bradford keep it from the media until talks were concluded with the player or players agent. Surely you must be able to understand the reasoning and benefit of that? All this did was get supportors hopes up that we were making a good signing when the player had no interest in even talking to us.
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| Quote ="Wirecutter"they should have requested Bradford keep it from the media until talks were concluded with the player or players agent.'"
I agree with this. I think the media side of things could have been handled better by both parties. In saying that however, we've somehow managed to keep our '6 new signings' under wraps...
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| Clearly we have two schools of thought here, one that says there's no such thing as bad publicity and one that says keep your cards close to your chest until you have a winning hand.
FWIW I subscribe to the latter view.
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"I agree with this. I think the media side of things could have been handled better by both parties. In saying that however, we've somehow managed to keep our '6 new signings' under wraps...'"
Maybe, just maybe thats because nobody had official signed!!!
Hope I'm wrong.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Maybe if we could ask Bradford to put him out on a loan basis we can all have a look and just maybe he will have a change of heart. The Bulls seem to be wanting to be rid of him so surely a smart move.'"
The loan scenario got a mention in the RLE 10/6 beneath the photo from the Horse Racing at Chester.
It would be understandable if Bradford refused that as they want money and Whitehead offloaded if he doesn't want to be there.
I don't recall him being on anyones wish list when there was a thread about potential signings.
His agent didn't do much research for him [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9599294.Bradford_Bulls__Whitehead_signs_new_five_year_deal/Last Year[/url proving that just as following the Forever Reds Meeting to the Wakefield performance [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-2120963/Bradford-Bulls-brink-unless-fans-raise-1million.htmla week[/url is a long time in rugby league.
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| On Boots n All last night,Eddie and John Kear seemed to confirm, that E W had signed for us
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| Quote ="scoot"On Boots n All last night,Eddie and John Kear seemed to confirm, that E W had signed for us'"
Clearly they jumped the gun, as a lot of fans have, and assumed that the clubs agreeing a fee meant player would automatically go along with it. Piece on sporting life now saying noble has given up hope of signing whitehead in time for this weeks game. Also mentions Catalans have tipped up their interest in him. Given that's where most bulls fans expected him to go but they weren't prepared to pay a fee in face of no opposition for mid season signing. Salfords offer have forced Catalans into offering a fee/swap deal. Probably wont be as good a deal for us financially as salfords offer but, assuming that was whiteheads intended destination all along, he presumably would be amenable to it.
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| I bet his agent , Andy Clarke is overjoyed .
got his player a release from the Club he seems to have fallen out with
found a club with top 4 ' apsirations ' able to settle Bradfords 100-125K release fee from his 4 years remaining contract.
Given that even NRL Clubs - are baulking at the transfer fees for the likes of Hock -potentially Tomkins class players.
would Bradford sell to another club for less than they could have got from Salford .
They could do a loan to a real 4 top club , if he was wanted. but to Bradford that 100K would have offset the withheld Sky monies & gone some way to funding a replacement / paying for Carvell.
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| Just read that Whitehead is a possible replacement for Jamil Fakir @ Les Catalan, I wouldn't say no to him for 1 or 2 seasons as he would definately add a bit of grunt to the pack. Not certain on his injury record but have always been impressed with his go forward. Think even at one point many moons ago he was linked with us before when he was younger.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Just read that Whitehead is a possible replacement for Jamil Fakir @ Les Catalan, I wouldn't say no to him for 1 or 2 seasons as he would definately add a bit of grunt to the pack. Not certain on his injury record but have always been impressed with his go forward. Think even at one point many moons ago he was linked with us before when he was younger.'"
It also states Fakir is considering offers from Wakey and HKR
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| At this stage in his career I think that Fakir might be another Feka
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| I find this [url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/8785698/dragons-capture-garciaan interesting development and statement[/url in addition to what was printed some time ago - back in April and the name of the agent [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/marwan-koukash-hands-new-man-2727499HERE[/url
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