I give up!

Typical Salford!

The under 20's are tearing up trees, we've invested hugely on these players in terms of time and development...............so let's sign an Aussie no-one's even heard of........in a position we don't need.

It's enough to make grown men weep.

ANYONE is an improvement on patten !

Going off his Toyota Cup days at the Roosters it looks like he can kick goals as well...

He has an English passport
176 kl =5'-9'' 81kg = 12s 9lb
According to reports he's been scoring tries for fun..............Must have a bit of pace

But can he tackle ? for every try Patten scores/makes, he gives the same away

Confirmed on the fishal site: www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/towers ... h-for-reds Very odd that we've all been raving about getting Fages in yet we sign another young foreigner and everyone complains. As I see it it's a good move from the club ... gives both parties chance to have a look and he also has half a season to learn from a very experienced full back who has performed at the top level. Let's hope he performs as well as the last Aussie full back we brought over on loan. From me, I'd just to say hi and that I hope he gives us an eye full on the pitch.

Confirmed on the fishal site: www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/towers ... h-for-reds Very odd that we've all been raving about getting Fages in yet we sign another young foreigner and everyone complains. As I see it it's a good move from the club ... gives both parties chance to have a look and he also has half a season to learn from a very experienced full back who has performed at the top level. Let's hope he performs as well as the last Aussie full back we brought over on loan. From me, I'd just to say hi and that I hope he gives us an eye full on the pitch.

It seems signing foreigners is OK as long as they're not Australian.

Saw Luke playing for Limoux in a game last year, one thing noticable in a very one sided game was he was very quick off the mark- very pacey

Agreed. He should certainly add some depth to our full-black pool.

More of this please... www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_lZXG1osQ

More of this please... www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_lZXG1osQ

Seem to remember a certain Steve Gibson , coming over a virtual unknown and doing alright in a Full Back role.

Michael Dobson came over mid season for Wigan and had a positive effect , he kept them up

I agree , Nial Evalds - Tom Whitehead could step up

but Toyota Cup NSW is a step up from 20's in SL , and he's your typical ' utility back '
Full Back- Half Back - Wings so I can see why Veivers is willing a have a look at him Mid Season and have first Dabs if he's a prospect , cover numerous back positions as we've had injuries all season.

I'm also guessing he'll be cheaper than Patten

I can't see any issue in signing him, cover across the back three and the halves at a push. Also as has been said he will be on considerably less than Pattern so money to spend elsewhere on the players we more desperately need.

What message does it send out to the lad who is playing full back in your under 21's. They seem to be doing reasonably well.
Surely you would have thought that promotion from within show's your youngsters that they have a chance of making the grade instead of signing an Aussie who to be fair nobody has heard of.

Obvioulsy PV doesnt think that the lads in the 21s arnt ready to compete in superleague every week, i would rather the club give the under 21s the experience in short sharp burst than blow them out chucking them in and letting them get destroyed both physically and mentally.

Looks from the You Tube clip he is very fast, would like to see him in defence as we know what pattens weaknesses are.

I understand your concerns about getting them "blown out" but he could ease the full back in this season whilst Patten is still here, that was my point.

Be interesting to see if he gets some game time would Patten be happy to "step aside" towards the back end of the season if we have nothing to play for? i doubt it but i cant see the point of getting the bloke over if we are not going to play him

I seem to remember that a lot of people weren't overly enthused with the signing of Danny Williams about this time last season and he's done alright hasn't he?

If he tackles like Patten,he will be faulty towers,not the recruit to drag fans to the ground,Vievers said he is good
enough for the N,R,L,so why is he playing in France.

Phil Veivers was quoted as saying " I have been told that he is good enough to play NRL or Superleague"

Which is somewhat different than your interpretation Lance,give the man a chance please.

Which is probably what Parish was told about Jordan James.

Just pointing out the difference between Lance's statement and what Phil Vievers
was quoted as saying.

So whats the difference?

If you cant tell the difference in what Lance said Phil Vievers said and what Phil Vievers actually said, its not for me to tell you but for you to find out.

The message is no different. If you want it enough and you are good enough you will naturally progress into the first team. No player in the U20's has a divine right to make it into the first team without competition.

Cream always rises to the top. It's up to the lad in the 20's to rise to the challenge and not turn sour.

With Patten leaving surely knowbody would expect Salford to have only one young and inexperienced fullback in the squad for 2013? I really don't see the problem.

LUKE TOWERS did ok last night in the under 20s game against the Bulls and if Luke Patten is out injured next week then I think Towers should take his place against the Giants.