For those not twitter (don't know how to do proper link to tweets) Martin vickers has tweeted:

@mart_vickers: For those who don't know .....Just teamed up with North Americas second biggest sports retail companies, an exclusive deal in the sport. One of the attractions to our club was the similarities between UA's origins in Baltimore and Salford. And the profile the Club had since Marwan's takeover. As part of the deal UA will actively work with our schools, college and junior clubs in our proud City Salford

The work with schools, colleges and clubs sounds very positive

It certainly sounds positive. I look forward to hearing the details of what it involves.

MV has actually just tweeted that Under Armour is opening a NW office and will be partnering the Colin's community work.

Sounds really encouraging. I've seen comments from other fans saying that a £1million deal has to be rubbish, but that tweet goes a long way into explaining why.

Tbh, it seems some fans of other Clubs will try to find fault no matter what.

shock horror I don't think we are a million miles away in our thinking, just the way we express it.

I've never said people shouldn't find fault, that is the best way too progress to learn from mistakes, what annoys me more is that some people do just seem too want too nit pick. You might not have liked it but I do honestly think if the Doc did bang a load of money away and say there you go safety forever some would find something to whinge about. Constructive criticism is what is required nut just moaning for the sake of it.

I did write too the club once or twice about the St Davids day tie in but got no reply, just wrote to Martin Vickers about it so we'll see what comes of it. I think the getting an ex player down for every game and getting him talking in the bar and a piece about them in the program is a good idea and helps the older fans keep connected with the new face of the club. Does anyone know if Dai Watkins has been to Barton or met the Doc? I would love for him too see the adulation Watkins would get from one and all.

We all know that the RFL went about mergers over here in a half d way, think in Australia they did it much better and franchises in the US work because the owners are very detached from the fans and move for their own self interests.

Everyone knows the best way too make the image of the club better is too win things and I do think within the next few years that will become a reality, that happens and you get bums on seats, more revenue from sponsorship and importantly in my eyes the younger players around look at Salford and think I want too play for them.

I would never advocate blind faith in any respect, just a bit of an allowance until the Doc puts everything right, learns fully about the game (as let's be honest her is very green still) and I'd hope starts too get a little better advice on what too say and when too say it.

I think any fan who thought that we would strong arm our way into the top 6 last year was deluded, I was realistic and thought top 8 was an outside chance, we got a big increase in numbers through the gate, a much improved squad and towards the end of last season a brand of rugby that I want too watch. That is sustainable progression for me. If we are playing in the top part of the let's split the atom complicated trophy next year I will be happy, a semi final in the cup would be enough I'm sure too fire and inspire the Doc even further.

I'm glad you wrote that, as it's pretty much my sentiment. I just couldn't be d this afternoon with the righteous brigade.

No problem are kid.

I did it so you don't have two

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"Tbh, it seems some fans of other Clubs will try to find fault no matter what."

we getting too much like Wigan?

Quote ="Red John"Compare and contrast: '" Erm, yes. I would have a problem with the club actively distancing itself from Salford. Do I think they are currently doing that? No. Am I overly concerned about the shirt not having Salford on it anywhere? No. Can I understand why other people are wary of the fact? Yes. Quote ="TheButcher"Any word on 'My Agenda' yet? I can't seem to find it...'" Well, you made this post here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=574648&p=17954793#p17954793 Then, for a devil's advocate, spent an awful lot of time defending your viewpoint. It was then followed by this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=575651&p=17968820#p17968820 Now, I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 3007, but it did read as "well, as far as I'm concerned it'd be the same club regardless and, oh look, the Salford public aren't getting behind us so it wouldn't be a bad thing to drop the name..." Apologies if this isn't the agenda it reads like, but that's how it's all come across. Particularly with the way you like dismiss people who do see the Salford name as all-important. Quote ="Michigan red"shock horror I don't think we are a million miles away in our thinking, just the way we express it.'" Maybe if we didn't dismiss other people's opinions with ridiculous statements straight off the bat, we'd get somewhere. I pretty much agree with the rest of your post, although I still don't think the example of franchising in Australia and the US are good pointers for it being all OK over here. Quote ="TheButcher"I'm glad you wrote that, as it's pretty much my sentiment. I just couldn't be d this afternoon with the righteous brigade. '" Righteous? No. Wanting to debate differing opinions without aiming posts such as your first one on this very thread at people with differing opinions? Yes. Big difference. Anyway, I'll repeat. I don't like the design, I'm not overly fussed about the badge not having Salford on it, although I'd prefer it if it did and I won't be wearing it. Can we move on peacefully, now?

Quote ="Red John"Compare and contrast: '" Erm, yes. I would have a problem with the club actively distancing itself from Salford. Do I think they are currently doing that? No. Am I overly concerned about the shirt not having Salford on it anywhere? No. Can I understand why other people are wary of the fact? Yes. Quote ="TheButcher"Any word on 'My Agenda' yet? I can't seem to find it...'" Well, you made this post here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=574648&p=17954793#p17954793 Then, for a devil's advocate, spent an awful lot of time defending your viewpoint. It was then followed by this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=575651&p=17968820#p17968820 Now, I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 3007, but it did read as "well, as far as I'm concerned it'd be the same club regardless and, oh look, the Salford public aren't getting behind us so it wouldn't be a bad thing to drop the name..." Apologies if this isn't the agenda it reads like, but that's how it's all come across. Particularly with the way you like dismiss people who do see the Salford name as all-important. Quote ="Michigan red"shock horror I don't think we are a million miles away in our thinking, just the way we express it.'" Maybe if we didn't dismiss other people's opinions with ridiculous statements straight off the bat, we'd get somewhere. I pretty much agree with the rest of your post, although I still don't think the example of franchising in Australia and the US are good pointers for it being all OK over here. Quote ="TheButcher"I'm glad you wrote that, as it's pretty much my sentiment. I just couldn't be d this afternoon with the righteous brigade. '" Righteous? No. Wanting to debate differing opinions without aiming posts such as your first one on this very thread at people with differing opinions? Yes. Big difference. Anyway, I'll repeat. I don't like the design, I'm not overly fussed about the badge not having Salford on it, although I'd prefer it if it did and I won't be wearing it. Can we move on peacefully, now?

Touchy touchy, jib.

Well, you're wrong about any agenda. To even suggest so is pretty stupid. I was voicing opinions (Something that you're keen to defend)

I wasn't referring to you when I tongue-in-cheek said Righteous brigade. But it does show that you are quick to jump the gun on someones post, which is perhaps a little pot calling the kettle black, don't you think?

I think people are reading too much into comments that are just as the Dr would say ' banter ', not agenda.

I don't think anyone as actually said Under Armour being our kit supplier is not a big positive for the club . for all the years we have put up with two-bit kit suppliers or suppliers more suited to Boots or jeans and longed for a recognisable sportwear company.
But people are entitled to say the design isn't to their liking without the thought police dragging us off to room 101 .
typical Salford though that the designs had already been ordered prior to the designs were previewed to the chosen fans board.



to carry on with the Orwellian theme.
I find it bizzare that we have a club policy of increasingly withdrawing ' Salford ' from the branding yet have the word ' Lowry ' on our shirt, a name inextricably linked with Salford despite the fact the artist was born in Manchester. doublethink

To get an idea of the size of Under Armour asa sportswear business they just published the Quarter 3 2014 results below:- .

Some big numbers



but anyone getting giddy over the reported big deal with the 'Red Devils ' , get a eye-full of the deal they struck with Notredame in US college Footy [urlhttp://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10328133/notre-dame-fighting-irish-armour-agree-most-valuable-apparel-contract-ncaa-history[/url

What most people don't realise in the States is the size and power of the Collegiate system, there is something called the B1G 10 who out sell merchandise wise and regularly fill bigger stadia than the biggest of NFL teams, Notredame isn't in the B1G 10 so you can only wonder what the even bigger colleges/universities make in apparel deals.

According to that story UA have kit deals with 12 college American Footie teams , two of which are in your BIG 10 conference :- Maryland & Northwestern,
the rest of these teams look to be a carve up between Nike & Adidas, interesting.
Your Michigan State team receive $8.2 M a year from Adidas .

See that comment at one point would have got me shot by the in laws/family.

All huge U of M people, the Spartans were about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit.

You can't comprehend the size of college anything over there. I've said it before nothing can prepare you for U of M Wolverines V Michigan State Spartans at the Big House in Ann Arbour.

I know U of M is Adidas and the range is mind blowing, in fact the range of merchandise would blow your mind.

www.thereddevils.net/news/northe ... ed-devils/ How very dare they, there's not a mention of Salford on the branding Does that mean one of the players gets a sponsored vehicle of a different kind?

www.thereddevils.net/news/northe ... ed-devils/ How very dare they, there's not a mention of Salford on the branding Does that mean one of the players gets a sponsored vehicle of a different kind?

For the sake of the dialectical struggle within the Red community, I'll bite. They've got the geography right this time.
"one of its main sites is based in Irlam within Salford"

Jonathan Ford Transit?
Sean Long Wheelbase?
Cheeky bid for Patrick Ah Van?

With some posters on here it would most likely be for Patrick Our Van.

Two right

Sponsors website states Manchester as their location

www.thereddevils.net/news/2015-h ... -tomorrow/ Bit of an increase in price, being a season ticket holder don't you get a 10/20% off all products? Does for the first time I've seen mentioned the magical £1,000,000 figure in that blub, that must be shifting on hell of a lot of kit.

www.thereddevils.net/news/2015-h ... -tomorrow/ Bit of an increase in price, being a season ticket holder don't you get a 10/20% off all products? Does for the first time I've seen mentioned the magical £1,000,000 figure in that blub, that must be shifting on hell of a lot of kit.

Can anyone translate?

Sorry the joys of messaging from my phone while in a rush.

Simply the article mentions that there is a change the deal could be worth up too £1,000,000 but you'd think that making that much would mean we need too shift one hell of a lot of merchandise/kit.

For what its worth (not much I know) but my opinion on the kit designs, I can't stand the home version but I'll accept the change strip as it really doesn't matter to me what colour it is but the home one, and I'll keep banging on about it, is the lack of white, is a basic Red & White kit [ithat[/i hard to come up with?

Oh on the Manchester thing, not to fussed about what the sponsor decides where its location is (although!) but I'm firmly in the camp that the club should have some recognition of where its from and who its representing on the shirt.

As I say only my opinion.