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| Quote ="king of the shed"Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish)
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I'll see your Ged Byrne & raise you a David Stephenson (again to Wigan)
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish)
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Chico beat you to it...further up in the thread
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| Quote ="mmp"Chico beat you to it...further up in the thread
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Fooker, that'll teach me.
Ok can I have Colin Whitfield?
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| Quote ="king of the shed"Fooker, that'll teach me.
Ok can I have Colin Whitfield?'"
I've only read the last page of this thread and cant be d to look if he's been mentioned but I'll have Andy Gregory then, left us for much bigger and better things than anyone could have ever dreamt to imagine!
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| Quote ="The Black Cat"I've only read the last page of this thread and cant be d to look if he's been mentioned but I'll have Andy Gregory then, left us for much bigger and better things than anyone could have ever dreamt to imagine!'"
But AG only played as ANO I believe - never actually signed for Salford? Now whether he should have is another question entirely!!
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| Quote ="baldfella"and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?'"
Apparently the Easter Bunny, Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy are putting a takeover consortium together, there'll be an announcement next week.
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| Quote ="baldfella"and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?'"
well we always seem to find a bit extra most season's bringing loan signing's in?
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"well we always seem to find a bit extra most season's bringing loan signing's in?'"
so say thankyou and stop whining...
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| take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
not me i want to watch a team that is up there season after season fighting for major honours , and not letting there best players go for no amount of money
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
Indeed, hence our songsheet;
"[iAveragione, averagione, are we, are we, are we[/i"
"[iSo come on Salford Reds, come on Salford Reds, we're gonna score an average number of tries, we're gonna score an average number of tries[/i"
"[iI see the Salford Reds settling in mid-table, I see the Reds going nowhere[/i"
"[iAnd it's Salford Rugby, Salford Rugby FC, we're by far the most average team, the World has ever seen[/i"
"[iQue sera, sera, whatever will be, will be, we're going to average see, que sera, sera[/i"
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
you've no solution though.
quite simply (and it is really this simple so please take it in), the money isn't there to spend - and our directors already spend what they can and there is no magic pot to dip into. stop whining on its boring.
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| Quote ="Jaymc9"take it everyone is happy
to just be an average team who never challenges for trophies then?'"
Its all down to capital as many on here totally realise. Some dont sadly. If Salford had more capital then better players would come and crowds increase and then more money in the system etc. Thats how simple it is but ...........finding the capital is the tricky one.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"finding the capital is the tricky one.'"
Not especially, it's straight down the M1
Seriously, you're spot on.
How the hell people on here expect the club to "show some ambition" (ie. splash the cash), "put their neck on the line" (ie. splash the cash), "put their hand in their pocket" (ie. splash the cash) or "compete for major honours" (ie. splash the cash) when we get an average home support of about 3500 is totally beyond me?!
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| Quote ="Fatboys Limb"Not especially, it's straight down the M1
Seriously, you're spot on.
How the hell people on here expect the club to "show some ambition" (ie. splash the cash), "put their neck on the line" (ie. splash the cash), "put their hand in their pocket" (ie. splash the cash) or "compete for major honours" (ie. splash the cash) when we get an average home support of about 3500 is totally beyond me?!'"
thats easy ?????????
answer
take a gamble SPLASH THE CASH
THE RED DEVILS
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| Quote ="salfords no 1"thats easy ?????????
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take a gamble SPLASH THE CASH
THE RED DEVILS'"
What Cash?
Are you dipping into your pocket to provide it?
Will you guarantee a loan for the club?
Come on folks - get real - the whole Rugby League industry in this country is struggling - sport is an industry and there just isn't enough interest in RL for it ever to lift itself to a level where it can generate the kind of income that is going to sustain a league of top quality full time professionals.
Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or maybe it's too many glasses of red, but when I look at the history of RL over the last 10 years or so and the great names that are now just also-rans (Rochdale, Featherstone, Hunslet, Swinton, Oldham, Widnes and on and on) I really struggle to see a bright future for the sport that we all love.
See you all on the terraces next week (if I haven't cut my throat with the rusty razor by then) !!
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"What Cash?
Are you dipping into your pocket to provide it?
Will you guarantee a loan for the club?
Come on folks - get real - the whole Rugby League industry in this country is struggling - sport is an industry and there just isn't enough interest in RL for it ever to lift itself to a level where it can generate the kind of income that is going to sustain a league of top quality full time professionals.
Maybe it's my natural pessimism, or maybe it's too many glasses of red, but when I look at the history of RL over the last 10 years or so and the great names that are now just also-rans (Rochdale, Featherstone, Hunslet, Swinton, Oldham, Widnes and on and on) I really struggle to see a bright future for the sport that we all love.
See you all on the terraces next week (if I haven't cut my throat with the rusty razor by then) !!'"
the cash he is spending on the museum would do , either make your mind up mr wilky , do you want us to be right up there ? or do you want us to be a feeder club , i mr wilky thank you for what you have done for this great club , but feel we the fans are being treated like mushrooms at times , ie news on the stadium ,offers for richie , who s staying , whos going , lies about pre- season trip , just be honest , thats all we ask , we are all salford and will continue to follow the reds home and away
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| Quote ="salfords no 1"the cash he is spending on the museum would do
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you simply dont get how the world works do you?
JW has been keeping the club afloat for years...he is able to do that by making sound investments in other areas. salford rlfc is a sunk cost and we're lucky, and should be thankful, that he continues to sink money in!
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| Quote ="mmp"you simply dont get how the world works do you?
JW has been keeping the club afloat for years...he is able to do that by making sound investments in other areas. salford rlfc is a sunk cost and we're lucky, and should be thankful, that he continues to sink money in!'"
no you dont get it , salford rlfc make money , if we were running at a lose do you really think mr wilky would be pumping money in season after season , the shirt sponsers etc pump thousands of pounds into the club , the crowd just covers the running of the club , the willows makes profit , replica shirt make profit , spin offs make profit , mr wilky is a very clever man he would not be in it to throw money away , face facts , tell me last time salford paid a transfer fee to buy a decent player ????????
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yeh right
No 1 tip by the financial times to support the credit crunch.
Some people are thick - end of story - the explanation in simple English leaves them.
There's only one club in the two top leagues of Super League who would survive if thec sugar daddy left - Leeds.
So get rid of Mr Wilkinson and kiss goodbye to Salford.
I feel some posters know as much about business as AEG.
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| Quote ="salfords no 1"no you dont get it , salford rlfc make money , if we were running at a lose do you really think mr wilky would be pumping money in season after season , the shirt sponsers etc pump thousands of pounds into the club , the crowd just covers the running of the club , the willows makes profit , replica shirt make profit , spin offs make profit , mr wilky is a very clever man he would not be in it to throw money away , face facts , tell me last time salford paid a transfer fee to buy a decent player ????????'"
If you are really Salfords No1 I hate to think what No 10 would be like.
The Salford City Reds are totally reliant on JW, HC and the other directors to keep the club going.
The sponsors do pump thousands into the club but this money and what is taken from the gate, the lottery etc goes towards all the costs involved in running a professional Rugby League club.
The gate receipts dont go anywhere near to covering the running costs of the club.
Since the Bosman ruling very few Rugby League Clubs pay transfer fees for players.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red""salford rlfc make money"
yeh right
No 1 tip by the financial times to support the credit crunch.
Some people are thick - end of story - the explanation in simple English leaves them.
There's only one club in the two top leagues of Super League who would survive if thec sugar daddy left - Leeds.
So get rid of Mr Wilkinson and kiss goodbye to Salford.
I feel some posters know as much about business as AEG.'"
who let the council have the ground so they could build houses for doctors and nurses , not me , so selling out all our history , who let the name red devils go , not me , great marketing tool , who is about to let the core of the team go ie , myler , turner , ratchford , not me , so what do i know about business not a lot , but i love my team as much as the next red
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| Quote ="salfords no 1"no you dont get it , salford rlfc make money , if we were running at a lose do you really think mr wilky would be pumping money in season after season , the shirt sponsers etc pump thousands of pounds into the club , the crowd just covers the running of the club , the willows makes profit , replica shirt make profit , spin offs make profit , mr wilky is a very clever man he would not be in it to throw money away , face facts , tell me last time salford paid a transfer fee to buy a decent player ????????'"
Absolute cobblers - Salford RLFC loose money hand over fist - the last published accounts show that the balance of the profit and loss account went from a deficit of £3.8 million to a deficit of £4.2 million in a year - i.e. lost a further £600,000 in a year.
The accounts also contain the following statement as a qualification by the auditors:
1 B Going Concern
The company has received loans from its parent company, The Wilkinson Corporation Limited, other subsidiaries of The Wilkinson Corporation Limited and pension schemes whose beneficiaries are some of the directors of the company. Without these loans, the company would be unable to meet its working capital requirements. Some of these loans are repayable on demand. However the directors of The Wilkinson Corporation Limited have given assurance that they will not require repayment unless other sorces of funding become available.
If you want to see for yourself - go to the Companies House website - it costs £1 to download the published accounts.
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| Quote ="salfords no 1"the cash he is spending on the museum would do '"
Oh so he can't be allowed to have other interests and investments? Do you wish him to sell Wilkinson Star and invest his life savings just to make a few thousand people happy!
Quote ="salfords no 1"salford rlfc make money'"
As a shareholder I am provided with the audited accounts each year and I will I will guarantee you, it doesn't!
I'm not happy about the lack of Stadium news but as it's now owned by Peel Holdings I'm thinking it is they who should be informing the club and then for the club to pass it on to us, if Peel have nothing new to say then nothing will be said.
On the other side of things.
As I've said to a few people the club and the team have really tested me this year (and thats part of the reason my postings on the ST have dropped so much) what with the Stadium, Jacksonville-Gate, the Captaincy fiasco, the Centenary Shirts (or lack of) I could go on. All this has to go and come from the top, its the decision makers who ultimately have to take the wrap for it all and then subsequently hand out a slapping to everyone in their organisation who is involved with any part of it all.
However having a pop at those at the top is possibly the worst thing to do in this current economic climate, because if John, Howard Iain Watson etc walk away and save their hard earned money then we'll really be up shiit creek!
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