We don't know for sure this was the work of a few under-performing players. Maybe Marwan saw something in Iestyn that he didn't see in Nobby. We'll never know. And while it probably was an impulsive decision, it doesn't mean it was the wrong one. He spent a lot of time courting Nobby - to the point where it was like an RL bromance - but it still seems to have been the wrong choice. Only time will tell whether Iestyn is the right man.

There's no doubt the timing was poor and it was handled very badly, but I'm not sure things would have been any better had Nobby stayed. Where would the extra two or three wins have come from? He'd have been as hampered by our (self-inflicted) lack of pace as Iestyn is. I can see one advantage in acting quickly, and that is that it gives the new coach time to assemble the staff and squad he wants prior to next season. Again this is something we'll never know, but would we have gone for Kevin Locke and BJB had Nobby still been around? And had we waited until the end of the season to appoint a 'big name Aussie', would those two players still be available?

Maybe its something to do with the date i joined the forum, or do your red blinkers obstruct the margins of this page.

Totally disagree. Where are these extra wins you are talking about?

Nobles tiresome tactics had to change. He was inflexible & it has been quite clear that there were far too many cooks (coaches) spoiling the broth.

The dinosaur has gone & its time to move on.

Fair enough but this is my opinion. I think the extra wins could have came at Catalan, Hull KR at home and possibly Widnes at Magic. All these games were there for the taking and a more settled team I believe could have won these matches. I believe had Nobby stayed the team would have had more continuity and understanding of the coaches methods and tactics. Let's not forget how Noble coached the team to victory against all odds against Hull in the Challenge Cup. The point is when Harris was appointed he will inevitably have made numerous changes that will have caused some short-term problems with performance. The players were just coming to terms with Noble's methods and they then have to start afresh with a new direction under Harris.

As I said in an earlier post I have nothing against Harris. I hope he succeeds but results this year have been even more disappointing since Noble left the club. Only time will tell if he is the right choice but right now it still feels to me like a massive gamble. I also appreciate that we could presently be going through some short-term pain now for greater gain in the future. Ask me tonight after an epic win at Saints and I could have a different opinion.

I am not of the opinion that MK mishandled the exit.
MK spent a lot of money and what niggles me on that score,as well as other things,was the South Africa 'bonding' trip.
All 3 of the coaching staff,Noble,Hay and Donlan have now left the club.Jordan Davies appeared to have left as soon as the plane touched down back in England,and others left on dual reg/loan.

What plans can there now be for a build-up to the 2015 campaign? The cynics and doubters will be out in force.
How can the club sell itself to a hard-to-please public after the Noble era? Allied to the fragmentation of the sport where Super League has the few number of games where the video ref is used and as such can only prevent parents taking children to games due to the delay in decision making and 'trial by television'.( Even the round ball game delayed goal-line technology as the sport of Association Football was not the same at grass roots level as it was at the top end of the sport. - rugby league has bonus points in the Championship and the 2 lower leagues manages quite well without video refs.)

It doesn't augur well for future attendances.

While Noble didn't drive over my cat he also didn't appear to coach anything into a squad of players he inherited in 2013 or with the players he signed after being given a blank canvas and adequate resources by MK.

That sound your hear must be a gush of wind as Super League and NRL clubs rush to acquire his services.

Possibly,or it could be the speed at which Harris was allowed out of Wigan.
Look,I've absolutely no problem at all with Iestyn Harris. I hope he turns out to be really good with us.
I just hate the constant carping about Noble

The only people going on about it constantly are you two...

It's a fair cop,guv !
I'll stop if he will

taking much interest at the time".

Yeah, but isn't talking about something actually related to the sport preferable to the usual "Ner ner ne nerr nerrrr, I call him Cockrash because it makes me feel big. He'll think twice before offending me again." level of complete and utter sand-pit and wendy house infantile drivel (sorry, dribble...actually, dribble might be more appropriate in this case) that this forum usually descends into?

Only to an extent.

Like most discussions they should have an end point because eventually they fizzle out, or indeed dribble out, and end up just repeating themselves. Or they simply get boring fast. The example you used about childish posts is a perfect example, however, constantly rehashing the same argument in a sensible discussion is also guilty of becoming mind-numbing.

the next game is a must win game, if we don't win then the question will be who will be the next coach

We wasn't great but I was disappointed with Salford tonight.

They certainly didn't look like a side who Phil Clarke assured would finish top of Super League and win the Grand Final.

Another new coach on the cards?

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Yeah it's a massive game for Harris. For many who he has yet to impress this will be the game where people are looking to see the first signs of genuine progress. Another defeat is unthinkable really.

Yes zero wins from the last 8 games is totally unacceptable for a team at maximum salary cap. There is obviously something fundamentally wrong behind the scenes and I think it's about time they have an internal 'Cards on the table' crisis meeting with all concerned. The club are paying big money and get nothing in return. Get to the bottom of it and then fire some people through the door to set an example.

Which brings us back to Noble..........
Sorry,Butcher,just joking.
Any coaching team can talk until they're blue in the face and mouthe all the right things about systems and progress.
The whole squad and management team has a problem if we don't beat Bratford comfortably.

Now you promised,didn't you?

Okay then.Have a glance at what Wigan fans thought after 3 years of Noble - [url=http://m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14370458HERE[/url

A management and coaching team that can mention - gelling - after 10 or 11 games? What ?

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Harris had 2 new combinations in the threequarters at Saints and they seemed to gell pretty quickly - none of them had to go it themselves from acting-half like Johnson at Widnes

Despite apparently spending up to the salary cap SRD have 2 loan players in the spine of the side.It is barely believable.Oh,and the last 2 defeats have been to sides going to the top of the Super League and both defeats have been to lesser scores than the players assembled by Noble could manage,against the same sides.

That does hint at improvement,I think.

Even I am bored with the constant references to Noble now. Lets just hope the constant talk of putting the correct structures in place etc from Harris comes good in the second half of the season, starting with the Bradford game.

It's just you and Red Devils PAW so please give it a rest !

Harris can continue to talk about 'structures' and blame Noble for screwing things up all he wants, but the bottom line is that Noble is an experienced and proven coach who has achieved success with several different clubs. Harris is not, and has abjectly failed in every senior coaching role he has had. I'd certainly trust Noble's structures over Harris's, and the fact that Noble was actually winning games would probably back that up. The longer you continue to buy into Harris's manipulation and garbage, the more your club is going to slip towards a relegation battle.

Like I said it's time to move on. Even bigger game now vs Bradford after their win today.

The game against Bradford takes on a massive edge after they won today. I have my doubts Harris will be around at the end of the season if we lose it and we really got dragged into the relegation fight.

I get the feeling we'll have a big name Aussie coach at the start of next season.

An aside but does anyone know if Flanagan ever actually arrived? I would have expected performances to have picked up if he had.

You dont like Harris do you? 4th post on this thread all with the same vitriol. Presume you are related to Noble as well as many sheep down there as well.

Your info and use of hyperbole & rhetoric show that you are quite an intelligent man - tis a pity that your malevolence & malignity let you down in conducting a coherant stance. When you have watched the Devils for a dozen games or so maybe somebody may take note.

Well your favourite journalist has been tweeting away to say he's not now coming!
Who knows what the story is?