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| HH is replaceable, he's been steady performer id of rather kept but Paterson on the other hand is a big loss as he's been a try scoring machine for us this season. If Leigh is his choice then surely he cant play Sunday?
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| I wonder if the club want HH off the salary cap as from what I've heard from a friend at the club he is on some serious till, till that would pay someone with better ability.
I'd personally love to see HH's wage spent on Kirkmond if Wakefield don't make the cut.
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| Quote ="REDRUM"HH is replaceable, he's been steady performer id of rather kept but Paterson on the other hand is a big loss as he's been a try scoring machine for us this season. If Leigh is his choice then surely he cant play Sunday?'"
Why?
Players play against their new Clubs quite a bit without any problems. Look at Tuivasa-sheck and Luke playing against the Warriors. Or Taylor playing against Hull. Or Hodkinson against Newcastle. Etc etc
I'm interested to know what your argument for not playing him would be.
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| just that his mind set might not be fully focused - look how uninterested Tasi has been since his move was announced. Would CP want to play for Leigh if they are not in SL?. This is such a vital game for both sides, win this and we are one foot in SL, if Leigh lose again its an uphill task for them and in my opinion we surely need a side that is fully committed to winning this game?
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| Not new news though is it? Both players are also replaceable. Paterson has been great for us this season, but it’s not like we cant go over to the NRL and pick up a player of equal and better quality. I’m also told his move isn’t dependent on Leigh being in Super League.
Hansen has been wanting out for a while now and his destination is likely on whether Leigh gain promotion or not. Due to living in the town, he has become very friendly with the players there and is often seen as the LSV whenever Salford aren’t playing. There is no chance that he will go there though unless they are promoted.
Whilst I accept we had an awful run of injuries and suspensions, lets not forget these are players that ultimately finished 11th in Super League. If we can get rid and recruit better then it’s a no-brainer.
I just hope this is also the end of the protracted contracts that MK put together to tempt over players like Hansen and Chase in the first place. These have caused the majority of issues between player and club and aren’t needed.
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| Quote ="redtillamdead79"Don't worry we ain't the only club going into Sunday with issues Leigh have issues of their own which the rfl have found out about, not saying anything but poop is about to hit the fan literally, got told about this weeks back and suprised it's took so long to come out but it has'"
Has it? What we have two players retiring due to injuries..
Get a life.
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| Quote ="atomic"Has it? What we have two players retiring due to injuries..
Get a life.'"
I think it's the reason behind these retirements though atomic. There not for injuries, are they?
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I think it's the reason behind these retirements though atomic. There not for injuries, are they?'" if its true the club has already replaced both players with higham and pala so it has no baring on sundays game,im more concerned with the injuries on hoppy barlow and hock
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Hmmmmmmmm, who do I believe Vickers or Sheens?
Difficult one that.
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Hmmmmmmmm, who do I believe Vickers or Sheens?
Difficult one that.
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| Vickers just continues to embarrass himself doesn’t he? The sooner we have a CEO with some form of sporting administrative experience the better.
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| I can't see the logic in constantly chopping/changing our first team squad. What we need is a bit of continuity and stability if we want to make any form of progression.
I'm at a point where I'm feeling completely disillusioned with what is happening behind the scenes at our club.
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| JGR has most of the story correct, its no coincidence that all the want-way players or players already left are the so called "Big names" the club came out with when Marwan took over.
Ways around the cap were well publicised at the time by Marwan himself stating they were easy to get around, the problem is if he decides to change his mind about being forthcoming with this "added incentive" then the players quickly turn, as would any one of us.
TP, Locke, Hock, HH, Paterson, Rangi, Morley all fall into this category so work the rest out for yourself.
Fages is a completely separate issue which is to do with player protection & wellbeing, im sure this will also come out sooner or later but I don't see anything but a Fages victory in this instance too.
The rest of the players on normal contracts will be getting paid as this is covered by the RFL payments to the club from the TV deal. The recent player extensions were announced after both players were offered around to other clubs with no interest forthcoming.
The major issue is that the RFL are fully aware of all the breaches, brown envelope non-payments, behind the scenes problems, bailiffs, non visa payments, insurance issues, kit issues, medical staff concerns as are all the other clubs, coaches, players ETC and therefore I really don't see how this will all work out in the end?
I just don't see it being positive, IMO I think the players did well do find the motivation to finish 11th.
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| Brown Envelopes? Don`t make me laugh. Bookmakers use them every day to reduce Racing Runners to less than 8 and less than 16. Untraceable arent they?
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| Quote ="REDRUM"just that his mind set might not be fully focused - look how uninterested Tasi has been since his move was announced. Would CP want to play for Leigh if they are not in SL?. This is such a vital game for both sides, win this and we are one foot in SL, if Leigh lose again its an uphill task for them and in my opinion we surely need a side that is fully committed to winning this game?'"
I am sure Marwan will get all players truly focussed with the excellent bonus expected for Sundays game.
Corey - I am fairly certain would not like to miss out.
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| Brown envelopes might be non-traceable, but promises of additional payments on letter headed paper from other business interests are not.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Hmmmmmmmm, who do I believe Vickers or Sheens?
Difficult one that.'"
Seems that your belief is misplaced...
[url=http://salfordonline.com/6078-salford-super-8-hansen-exit-shock-threatens-to-overshadow-watsons-leigh-build-up.htmlHanson to Stay[/url
Possibly Tim Sheens 'accidentally' forcing a decision from Hansen?
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Seems that your belief is misplaced...
[url=http://salfordonline.com/6078-salford-super-8-hansen-exit-shock-threatens-to-overshadow-watsons-leigh-build-up.htmlHanson to Stay[/url
Possibly Tim Sheens 'accidentally' forcing a decision from Hansen?'"
We'll see.
I still don't see a statement from Hansen anywhere.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"We'll see.
I still don't see a statement from Hansen anywhere.'"
I'm throwing you a bone here, you miserable bleeder!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"you miserable bleeder!
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I blame the club for that as well!
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| Quote ="atomic"Has it? What we have two players retiring due to injuries..
Get a life.'"
A couple of players retiring due to whatever reasons is hardly going to create the headline news that people at the trade papers are saying the full story is going to create.
I actually do feel a bit for the Leigh fans, the players and officials involved can walk away but the fans still have to go to the games and they are the ones who will face the brunt of it.
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| Any of the current squad are replaceable, of course they are. The problem is when the staff turnover is so high (behind the scenes also), any bonding, team spirit, etc, is lost and we have to start from scratch. Again. No team sheds players at the same rate we have done over the past 5 seasons...
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| Regardless of HH going or staying I'd take the on field captaincy of him, make him club captain when Moz retires.
I'd personally make Sa'u the on field captain, always gives 100%, seems to be a very clean living type away from the club (no bad press from him) and leads by example on the field.
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Did Tim Sheens actually name them or just say one or two players may/will be leaving at the end of the season
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Did Tim Sheens actually name them or just say one or two players may/will be leaving at the end of the season
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