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| Quote ="Walshovski"reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/01/27/official-club-statement/
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Right get your point now, but they aint gonna keep him as captain while they investigate are they it aint how its done no more though is it, they have ,( the club ) done the wrong thing in the way they have handled the whole affair, and gave a few people the wrong impresion of what went on, so lets get on with what we do best and support our great club, SALFORRRRRRRRD. Ill get mi coat.
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| Quote ="redhazel227"My opinion on this matter is hat I really do not care who did what or who said what in Florida or anywhere else for that matter. It is no business of mine or anyone else what went on unless you were actually involved in what happened. We have all been told one story or another from freds sister or joes mum etc but the truth of the matter is we dont really know what happened, these people will only tell you what they want you to hear. We can all think we know the truth but the truth is we dont. My views on tantrums and spitting dummies out still stands but I personally think there is a lot more to this than we know about.
The people who are saying Alker has thrown a tantrum and got his own way may well be correct I dont know but they also sound very much like spoilt children who because they havnt been given all the gory details of who said what and who did what to who now need to look for something else to complain about.
I have come to the conclusion after watching Salford for more than 40 years that our fans are only happy when they can have a good moan. If we won everything in sight they would be moaning because they had nothing to moan about.
At the end of the day I dont care who is or is not captain all I care about is my team and if that means the clu doing things I dont always agree with I will still get on with my job which is supporting my team no matter what and that is what the rest of true Salford fans will be doing.
Maybe we should try putting as much passion into supporting the team as certain people do in booing the team and keyboard moaning. Who knows you may start to like it.'"
Fantastic post that, would have taken me about a week to type all that though
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The club has to act to instill a high level of professionalism in all players if it is to continue to progress.
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| Seems to me that Player Power has won and that is very, very sad. We shall have to see now whether there is unity and I will be watching 4 players in particular to see how they react to the new arrangement.
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| Tall Red I think we all know where your feelings lie on the subject but are you seriously suggesting the club took action first, stripped him of the captaincy then held an investigation? Bit like the police giving you a jail sentence then looking into the matter.
I'm sorry but this has made the Salford club look feeble. The club did their investigation, took action and should have stood by their decision.
Player power should not be the over riding power.
If there was any doubt about the conduct it should have remained behind closed doors, gossip mongers such as Barker should have been told to with hold information until such time as the club were ready to discuss the matter. This should not have been conducted in the public arena.
Only Parker has come out of this with his head held high.
Alker has ruined and tainted his legacy for me.
This season just get worse.
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| Quote ="redhazel227"My opinion on this matter is hat I really do not care who did what or who said what in Florida or anywhere else for that matter. It is no business of mine or anyone else what went on unless you were actually involved in what happened. We have all been told one story or another from freds sister or joes mum etc but the truth of the matter is we dont really know what happened, these people will only tell you what they want you to hear. We can all think we know the truth but the truth is we dont. My views on tantrums and spitting dummies out still stands but I personally think there is a lot more to this than we know about.
The people who are saying Alker has thrown a tantrum and got his own way may well be correct I dont know but they also sound very much like spoilt children who because they havnt been given all the gory details of who said what and who did what to who now need to look for something else to complain about.
I have come to the conclusion after watching Salford for more than 40 years that our fans are only happy when they can have a good moan. If we won everything in sight they would be moaning because they had nothing to moan about.
At the end of the day I dont care who is or is not captain all I care about is my team and if that means the clu doing things I dont always agree with I will still get on with my job which is supporting my team no matter what and that is what the rest of true Salford fans will be doing.
Maybe we should try putting as much passion into supporting the team as certain people do in booing the team and keyboard moaning. Who knows you may start to like it.'"
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As you have eluded to , different players will have told individuals THEIR side of the story (as we all do, no matter if we are right or wrong), Maybe we should be putting a lid on this now & lets have some decent rugby played, win or lose I will be happy if they play together as the team.
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| they are hoping this will sort us out now as i think they damwell no there is a split in the camp over this end of the day they need to chop the dead wood out causing the problem if it does not sort it self out now.
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| Quote ="Bigpev"sack Coley'"
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| Quote ="billybradshawsmum"WELL SAID JANICE
As you have eluded to , different players will have told individuals THEIR side of the story (as we all do, no matter if we are right or wrong), Maybe we should be putting a lid on this now & lets have some decent rugby played, win or lose I will be happy if they play together as the team.'"
Im with you shirl, gonna say no more from now on, only so you dont give me a slap when you see me next, right or wrong, whats done is done, SALFORRRRRRRRD.
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I like this , best post of the year, I will get your first beer at kr
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| A total disgrace Alker should have been shown the door Not reinstated by the suits looking after their own status.
Ow well at least Sir Mal can't be the leader to get us relegated for what the forth time in his tenure as the Salford trap door has been sealed by Mr Lewis and co at Red Hall.
Pi*s poor Salford..
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| He should never have been stripped int he first place! Go on Mal!
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| Very very weak management for me at the very time when we need strong leadership and guidance...this goes all the way to the top too, no two ways about that whatsoever...a very disappointing day for most right-thinking Salford fans.
Interesting to read in the original statement:
Due to his involvement in a number of minor incidents recently, long-standing skipper Malcolm Alker has had the Captaincy of the club removed from him as part of the measures undertaken, other players will be dealt with appropriately.
And the newest statement:
McRae said, “Having spoken at length to Malcolm it was clear that lessons have been learned. He is deserving of this second chance, I have little doubt about that, and I can see in his eyes that he will not let us down. I am very pleased we have managed to resolve this and we can now get back to business with no distractions”.
So he's been involved in a number of incidents but this is his second chance...some good maths there McRae.
And McRae has said we can get on with business with no distractions...does that mean no more p1ss poor excuses for being 30 points down at half time at home???? I somehow doubt it...
Part of me thinks that the club has got the captain that some of the supporters deserve right now.
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| Maybe it was the right decision maybe it was the wrong decision we wont now until a couple of games in if it is the coach or the players thats goosin the team up but i think it must be pretty embarrassing for parker to lose the captains badge so early, shame really he should have been given a chance rather than people wanting his head yes we lost really badly to the other teams but if all of a sudden we start winining ganes under alker wont it look suspicious and make the club look even dafter than before
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| Quote ="zandor46"Maybe it was the right decision maybe it was the wrong decision we wont now until a couple of games in if it is the coach or the players thats goosin the team up but i think it must be pretty embarrassing for parker to lose the captains badge so early, shame really he should have been given a chance rather than people wanting his head yes we lost really badly to the other teams but if all of a sudden we start winining ganes under alker wont it look suspicious and make the club look even dafter than before'"
It wouldn't suprise me if after the disgraceful behaviour of some of our fans Parker told the club to stick the captaincy. Leaving the club no other alternative than to reinstate Alker.
Tonight could be an interesting game.
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| One thing I have noticed is a conspicuous lack of any apology from Mal. Whatever did go on in Florida and before was sufficent to take the captaincy off him. Whilst glad he is back as I agree he is the teams natural leader I am dissapointed at the lack of any contrition from him.
On the bestselling game of bag your club, lets all get a reality check we are in a very very tough League judge em in July not now. Roll on Saints !
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| its a 50/50 choice for me.i like the way he is a leader on the field, talking alot to the players on the field sorting them out and lifting the spirits up.but when i heard about him what happend in florida didnt come to a suprise really.i ignore him when i see him out drinking now,but not just him theres a few off the players too.I was annoyed that rob parker was handed the captain because hes new to the club.should off given it to stapleton.I hope that rob parker gets better now as the season goes on.
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| common sense prevails at last getting our skipper back
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| I'm not sure i agree with the decission but having said that i will find it hard to criticise if performances start to pick up!
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| First and last thing I will say on the situation, what a load of sh*te!
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| Quote ="Red-ode"I'm not sure i agree with the decission but having said that i will find it hard to criticise if performances start to pick up!'"
if performances do pick up it says alot about te players we have at our club. Personnally as much as I want us to be a better team i'll be less than happy if we miraculously become a rugby team again just because Alkers pals have underperformed on purpose.
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| good point, but as i say i'm not sure i could say they should't have done if if we start getting consistantly better results.
Having said that i can't see it really. I don't think the captain is the only reason for our bad performances at the moment!
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