I wonder how many of them will turn up for the curry night?

Dont think I've come away that disappointed in a long time.

Some people are optimistic, some people are pessimistic, it's the same with most clubs. Just because some people might not share the same view as you, it's hardly worth getting worked up about what other people think and posting 'I told you so' threads when we lose.

Massively disappointing tonight, every time we had a chance we panicked and lost the ball. Think we had the ball in their half about three times in the first 40 minutes and knocked on all three times. Referee's shocking 1st half performance was irrelevant by the end of it, we were that bad.

How can we go from being heroes to zeros with such alarming regularity? Every time we put ourselves into position to make a decent run in the league and to attract new/lost support we manage to cock it up big style.

An appalling display of 1st half refereeing from Childs was compounded by an equally appalling display from ourselves over the whole 80 minutes. In some way my ejection from the ground after approx 50 minutes by the stewards for a sustained verbal assault on Childs as he came off at half time probably proved to be a blessing in disguise!

We weren't even in it. I hope those players are absolutely ashamed of what they turned out tonight. Very poor show. Referee's don't knock on, drop off tackles (in some cases just don't bother to attempt them), or throw hairbrained "offloads" thats all down to the players.
Shouldn't forget to give credit to Widnes tonight either, better team by far, and totally deserved their win.

Childs was bad in the first half, he and his bottle boy got it off me tonight resulting that recording, however i due to the poor eyesight of the two of them there cound not find me. i was right in front of them and i'm large size, it shows how poor the standard of refs are.
however it was the team that lost it or did not play.

The "I told you so" theory may subconsciously be right, it might be because repeatedly on this forum I state facts (sometimes been removed) yet a certain clique refuse to believe it. Like yourself I'm massively disappointed, after all the fisty-cuffs in the 1st 20 minutes, the Widnes players where willing to fight for the crest on their jerseys whilst the Salford players weren't up to the task. Gibson and Williams happy they've got new contract? Gleeson not bothered he's moving on after being refused a new contract offer. Felt for Sneyd tonight again, is it nerves? When listening to Vievers talk about the kid to me is seems he doesn't fancy him, maybe that's influencing his performances. Chances of Mr Long putting a jersey on next week? Hmmm....

Long at Hull



and this what PV said
Salford coach Phil Veivers said:

"Credit where credit is due - Widnes came with a game plan and stuck to it.

"They gave it to us and we used a lot of energy up in the first half defending.

"They had 10 sets more than us in the first half and we were probably lucky to be only 24-0 down at half-time. We vastly under-performed

nothing about some players should never play for us again

Stayed away from this board most of the season because of the ridiculous negative nature of it all - came back to post a couple of weeks ago after the Wire performance because I genuinely felt this team, followed by the KR grit, had shown they had something close to what the board are paying them. Tonight was a slap in the face to big Phil, to Longy, to Mr Wilkinson & the board, and was symptomatic of the attitude of modern players who cry on Twitter before taking responsibility themselves. Once we were behind, we gave up. We don't have a divine right to beat anyone, and I am a realist who understands that spending a few bob on a team doesn't mean we're gonna be world beaters, but after 40 years loving and watching the brilliant moments and the rubbish, I am struggling to remember any team, no matter how e, that threw in the towel so easily. It's not the end of the world, we have still made tremendous progress in the last 3 years thanks to the owners willingness to throw their money away, and as a result of this we are in Superleague and should remain so despite all financial reality, but I can rarely remember a performance in the last 42 years where I thought the players on the park didn't deserve to wear the shirt I love

Was talking to a couple of salford lads after the game they where saying your chairman is making a big announcement
tomoz????

Well, at least we can all moan about something else other than finances... Fair play to widnes, shouldnt of underestimated them.

To be fair mate, its not a pethetic post its a truthful one. Why do we bother? Whats the point? Today was disgusting and the players need hanging simple as.

As always with Salford, it's one step forward, then ten steps back. We could probably beat Hull next week, then concede 50 to London

"I'm quite glad we got beat"
Go away your not a fan.
"The players need hanging"
Do they? Grow up.

We lost a game after two great wins!

How bad was that?
Forget about us not having the heart to scrap with them early on,that was their plan and we should have avoided it.
Widnes played very well but we had no ball in the first half hour and the ref did give them 2 tries by half time.
We were never going to come back from that but the way they scored tries by skinning Gleeson and the Patten was embarrassing.
When we did attack,the fact that we had 2 players out of our usual backline, made a massive difference.
Feel sorry for Sneyd,something's not right.
More people leaving early than I can remember seeing before
All in all,a terrible performance,and Lanky bowled out for 67 !

Programmethrower, you say I am glad we got beat but on the hand applaud the Widnes fans for sticking with there club & wearing there shirt with pride! Do you know how stupid you sound.
Yes we were very disappointing, yes we were well & truly turned over but, what is the difference between your statement? Why is it you applaud the Widnes fans for sticking with there club yet continue to pore scorn with glee on our club even though we have played some fantastic rugby & are higher in the league.

I'm struggling to remember a more spineless offering since a mid-table Cas came and put more than 70 past us about 12 years ago

Last night was embarrassing and the players didnt seem to play with any desire or passion.
I dont know if any of you watched the 20s before the first team but they were awesome, they beat Widnes comprehensively and showed massive passion and skills it seems the firsts can only dream of. All is not lost, the future is still bright.

Widnes u20s played poor last night, but Widnes are improving and there will be more great games between Widnes and Salford.See you all next year.

Give credit where its due, wow there are some 'Trent Robinson like' characters on our forum! Take the bitter pill please.

Widnes were far superior for 80 mins, they were faster, stronger, more skill-full, had the passion and the will to destroy us on our own patch.

Well done to them I say.

Cracking performance from the reserves. I like their radical approach of playing a hooker in the number 9 position, while Vievers persists with a utility player and lumbering second rower in this position for the first team.

Because being Salford I have been in their situation many and time and still am. Turning up expecting / knowing your team is going to get pounded. Yet Salford away support is tragic, maybe you could included home support in that too. Widnes fans where credit last night, turned up not in huge but respectable number anticipating getting beat, also they was vocal, maybe that was due to the fact it was the performance of season from then. I suggest you follow Salford away more, whilst within the 100 or so you think it sounds loud and but take a step you realise its poor and decreasing. So that's why I applauded the Widnes fans.

Dealing with the Widnes followers first - since their days in The Championship they have gone onto forums suggesting Betts should go - have repeatedly stated he is out of his depth in Super League.I believe they are
able to spend the full salary cap after an announcement Steve O'Connor made after they got the Super League License,when he asked the supporters to back a 'Stronghold' where money went into the club throughout the year;nor just a 'lump' when season tickets were purchased.He has put together a large squad of Super League experienced players.
It was after our players did do some decent defensive work that Mr Childs gifted them a number of tries.I have been reminded,via another forum,that he penalised us for 'crossing' -DJ and Marc Sneyd - and his other decisions were also outrageous.2 home defeats when he has refereed that I can recall,of the top of my head.
Obviously,if we signed the players Widnes have signed they would have all been 'rejects' and not a squad of players,who,when gelling together can put a performance in.They did defeat Wigan a few months ago.
With the territory and ball possession Widnes had our players 'ran out of juice'.It was just a very bad day at the office.We still managed to squander 5 scoring opportunities.With Widnes having both Hull clubs visit them in the fixture list,the top 8 is some distance from being finalised.
It was nice to see some supporters remain until the end.
It should also be remembered that 2 of our forwards were absent.Ben Gledhill and Shannan Macpherson and certain players sustained injuries during the game.
It was awful - but not the end of the world.It certainly wasn't when Wigan lost to Widnes.
You never know,if we put a run together we - Salford City Reds - could be the form side going into the play-offs.



Where is Gareth Owen ?

Not so!

On the plus side.the fans bar was a great improvement.

It was. Did a lot go in after the game? I say that because St. Mikes was dead.