Yesterday was the first time I’ve been to Wakefield without a drink since I was a bairn. Never again. It was [iintensely[/i boring. The second-half ‘fightback’ was scant restbite. Spent more time looking at the scoreboard, which looks a lot like my alarm clock.

Same here, only as I couldn't wait for that bore-a-thon to end, gotta say I've witnessed some boring games watching Salford but that has to rank in the top 3. £46.00 of my hard earnt completely wasted. Castleford away? mmmmmmm maybe not!

Thought we looked some way off the pace on Sunday. The second half was better.

Parker was outstanding.
Cashmere made a couple of really important try saving tackles after backtracking.

The left wing looks vunerable to say the least. I don't know if that is because Smith defends there.

I don't see Robbie Paul adding much to the game at the moment, his passing is inaccurate and slow.

We need to get up to speed and quickly.

Bloody hell Swain was a world beater 2 weeks ago against celtic, now after a bad game you think he should be dropped? Give him a break! IMO we shouldn't change it too much, even though i couldn't make the game, this would only cause more problems. We need time to gel and swapping and changing players so soon wont help. All that should of been sorted in the friendlies we had.

I'm in agreement Jaymc9. We are all used to getting let down, but let's not get carried away.

There were some positives. Stapo was looking very dynamic in his second spell and seemed to cause problems. When Casmere took the ball at pace he too was a handful. Parker and Adamson worked really hard and Big Phil ran hard and always seemed capable of an offload.

We may have been out played and out smarted in the first half, but never felt the Pack was out of it's depth. Would possibly say we had better pack, a bonus that I cannot remember us ever having in the Super League era.

As long as the backs perform better over the next few weeks we should start to look like a good team.

actually didn't think he was that impressive at celtic either, IMO.

I think he is big enough and fast enough to go into the pack and let turner in at loose.

this week he was ok and agree we do need time for the team to gel.

I would still keep the same team against castleford as that second half (without given penalties away) we aere more of a match, and played some very good rugby!!

exactly.

from what i seen our pack should be able to cope with most teams, it's just our back that will have to start throwing it about before 50 minutes. when we get going i think we could go on a good run

if people expect us to lose before we play they won't be dissapointed when we do will they.

I'm happy with 2 things yesterday, the way we played after half time (even though we didn't score enough) and our support we took. don't get too many away games but i was encouraged with how many of us there was.

Swain and a few others were blowing hard and stood hands on heads.

We had right laugh with Swain, bet he can not wait till next season to come back again

I think had Wakey still had Grix playing in the second half you would have suffered further. We lost a bit of direction once he went off. Drew was fantastic but can't be expected to do everything, especially not for 80 minutes.

Having said that I think you definitely performed much better second half and Leuluai was impressive.
Have to say I was very unimpressed with Jeremy Smith, he did nothing all game.

I think if you can play like you did in second half for 80 minutes against Cas you will give them a game, but I'm not sure you will beat them, they have improved a lot since last year. It may take your boys a while longer to get up to the pace.

I think a lot of criticism stems from last season, where despite achieving what the club set out to do, there were a lot of disenting voices against Shaun McRae’s style of play. There’s gonna be something about this in the next Turkey.

The reason Swain was blowing towards the end was because he did so much bloody work. Him, Adamson and Malc we by far our best men on the pitch. The amount of tackling Adamson did was phenominal. Thought it was a really boring match to be honest , we never looked a danger, wakefield always looked in control and the kicking in the 1st half was a disgrace. i agree with a previous comment about Henry being a centre, he offered the outside to Blanch who just ran around him with out having a hand put on him. Nash needs to be dropped as he was too powder puff and not enough aggression to take the team forward, we looked weaker when he came on. Littler was the only outside back to come out with any credit and thought Smith was average but Myler tried hard. Bring on next week and hopefully we can see what we have learnt!

Agree with most of your comments but not about Nash,thought he did ok.Biggest disappointments for me were Cashmere and Stapleton in the 1st 20 minutes when the game was lost.They improved in the second half and played well,especially Cashmere,but the game was over by then

I saw Nash get knocked back by half backs. For the size of the guy it shouldn't be happening and I know hes only a baby and he does have time on his side but he just looked below super league level for me. Agree with what you say about cashmere and stapo tho, didn't give us as much as they did last week , thought wakey's pack stood them up quite well, we need to be more than a one trick pony

Well Wakey sunday..........

We started too slowly, they deserved their 19-0 lead at half time we were poor, 2nd half we were better, wakey were playing for time most of the 2nd half taking ages to restart play giving their forwards lots of rest.
We got desperate towards the end spilt a bit of ball and Wakey killed us off.

Individually think Henry looked a bit suspect but he is playing out of position so you cant bag him too much at the moment, Regarding the the Alker v Paul battle i recon Round 2 goes to Paul, Alker looked sluggish today conpaired to Celtic and Paul looked a lot better, not fab by all means but he certainly asked a few more questions of Wakeys defence.

Anyway role on Castleford.........lets hope we dont start like we did against wakey.

Got to agree about Nash, still doesn't convince me, think Jewwitt would give us more power coming of the bench, he is always enthusiastic & he has aggression (Iknow,!!! too much sometimes)but he is what the team needs although he can be a little hotheaded he does make yards when he goes forward.
Nash didn't get much game time last year, due to injuries most of it, so I can't see how he warrents being in the team rather than Jewwitt or Sidlow who played plenty of games last season, but McRea must see somethig we fans don't.

I don't understand the negativity people have about Nash at the minute, i honestly don't think we looked any weaker when he was on the field plus he's a young lad with bags of potential and will only get better the more games he plays in and against a better class of opposition. Isnt this what the 3 year licence is all about??

As for the game- yes we were woefull in the 1st half and Wakey more than deserved their win but on a positive front even though we were terrible for the majority of the game if Sibbits try had been allowed then it was game on and anything could have happened. To have had a chance of getting something out of the game when we played that poorly must be a positive and something Mcrae can work on.

Most of us know its going to be a long season and they'll be a few more games like Sunday im sure but we know where were weak and can work on it. Its a simple fact that a lot of the other teams are better than us at this stage and its going to take time (and patience) to catch them up!

Tommo2 - thank god for some optimism - you read this thread and you'd think the sky had fallen in. I think Steve Nash has looked fine both games - better at Wakefield than against Celtic - shh don't say it too loudly, but could he be improving?

I'm sure you make these things up as you go along.

Have you not got some work to do.

Adamson has made an average of 42 tackels in the 2 games so far - our top tackler. Cashmere has made most carries and metres. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2569

Adamson has made an average of 42 tackels in the 2 games so far - our top tackler. Cashmere has made most carries and metres. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2569

Quote ="red missed"Adamson has made an average of 42 tackels in the 2 games so far - our top tackler. Cashmere has made most carries and metres. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2569'" Interesting to go to that site and do the head to head comparison of Stuart Littler vs Willie Talau - then ask who needs to up their game? The numbers don't lie!!!!!

Quote ="red missed"Adamson has made an average of 42 tackels in the 2 games so far - our top tackler. Cashmere has made most carries and metres. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 9&hp2=2569'" Interesting to go to that site and do the head to head comparison of Stuart Littler vs Willie Talau - then ask who needs to up their game? The numbers don't lie!!!!!

Did exactly the same mate - makes interesting reading doesn't it?

I might be mistaken (ill hold my hands up if i am) but Wakeys 2nd to last try, knocked the ball on about 30yrd from our line, from the resulting scrum they crashed over and killed the game.

All im saying is we tried to push the pass and it backfired.

Also watching Boots and all, showed Sibbits Disallowed try,Cullen analysis was abit confusing on why it was disallowed.

I dont speak Cullen but what i got was :

" The touch judge thought it was a try, the in goal judge thought it was too, but the referee looked to the far touch judge who was looking for somthing else and it was a good decition"

I was talking about your phrases, numbnuts!