These are PTs demands then.

OK lets examine :-

1) JAW would love to go so PT who is your man to find the £5+ million to see him off?
2) So huge Redundancy payment required here plus no doubt such as Gary Cook - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Cook_(CEO) (hes available) to come in at 10 x the salary.
3) Another lump sum required from PTs benefactor and also someone as well versed as SS in the Australian market.

I pass the ball to you PT. Who is this man you have lined up? Tell us all.

These are PTs demands then.

OK lets examine :-

1) JAW would love to go so PT who is your man to find the £5+ million to see him off?
2) So huge Redundancy payment required here plus no doubt such as Gary Cook - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Cook_(CEO) (hes available) to come in at 10 x the salary.
3) Another lump sum required from PTs benefactor and also someone as well versed as SS in the Australian market.

I pass the ball to you PT. Who is this man you have lined up? Tell us all.

Now then Early Bath,

First point, I'm aware Mr Salford want's to go because I attened the scam after the Catalan game, sponging another £20 of my child's inheritance. However I'm bemused where you get the sum of 5+ million

What assets does SCR have that could possibly even get close to that figure? Mr Salford sold the club assets, throwing all his eggs into one basket and predictably failing (everyone else knew it would fail, why couldn't him and his chief pen pusher realize it would?) Unfortunately the yolk is now on him. I will make no apologies for the pun. Secondly, are they on huge salaries? Plus if someone is under performing at their job you have ground to let them go. I'd like to know how you think Mr Tarry has been excelling in his role? If not, I referrer to my previous comment. Finally I find it very comical you think Steve Simms is well versed in the Australian market. I don't have the time nor do I have the effort to trawl through the import signings since the well versed man in question has been at the club. Without deep thinking I could name five tops that I would say, great signing for Salford. How many of these signing have been uninspiring not only in performance but also attitude. How many came for one final pay packet and which is unforgivable, not even fully fit carrying injuries! Once last point which I almost missed out, why does out well versed SS in the Australian market get his all expenses trip down under annually, I thought he just logs onto a well known video sharing site and signs them up?



Over to you Early Bath, I eagerly await you respond no doubt saying all the problems at SCR are a myth and had it not been for the savior we'd be playing on rabbit hills.

Now then Early Bath,

First point, I'm aware Mr Salford want's to go because I attened the scam after the Catalan game, sponging another £20 of my child's inheritance. However I'm bemused where you get the sum of 5+ million

What assets does SCR have that could possibly even get close to that figure? Mr Salford sold the club assets, throwing all his eggs into one basket and predictably failing (everyone else knew it would fail, why couldn't him and his chief pen pusher realize it would?) Unfortunately the yolk is now on him. I will make no apologies for the pun. Secondly, are they on huge salaries? Plus if someone is under performing at their job you have ground to let them go. I'd like to know how you think Mr Tarry has been excelling in his role? If not, I referrer to my previous comment. Finally I find it very comical you think Steve Simms is well versed in the Australian market. I don't have the time nor do I have the effort to trawl through the import signings since the well versed man in question has been at the club. Without deep thinking I could name five tops that I would say, great signing for Salford. How many of these signing have been uninspiring not only in performance but also attitude. How many came for one final pay packet and which is unforgivable, not even fully fit carrying injuries! Once last point which I almost missed out, why does out well versed SS in the Australian market get his all expenses trip down under annually, I thought he just logs onto a well known video sharing site and signs them up?



Over to you Early Bath, I eagerly await you respond no doubt saying all the problems at SCR are a myth and had it not been for the savior we'd be playing on rabbit hills.

I don't know whether anyone has seen the FAQ Sale Sharks produced for its fans: www.salesharks.com/RugbyNewsDeta ... le/2721098

I'm not sure whether we produced something similar but you should be able to pick through the useful bits.

Worth a read.

I don't know whether anyone has seen the FAQ Sale Sharks produced for its fans: www.salesharks.com/RugbyNewsDeta ... le/2721098

I'm not sure whether we produced something similar but you should be able to pick through the useful bits.

Worth a read.

Bobby, it was posted when a lot of people were already in Wakefield, or were travelling across. Considering many people would have had attention elsewhere on Sunday, will be in work today and not everyone's constantly glued to the internet I think that's a bit of an unfair post.

Okay. Rather than quoting the entire post from Wayward Fan, I'll take the questions one by one. There's no real point responding to the facts as they are, well, facts. Same with the opinion at the end, we'd only be going round in circles if I start quoting and responding to that as well. I'd probably also be repeating myself. So...

* would fans of Salford City Reds prefer to see the stadium fail as a business?

I think that's a fairly daft question, to be frank. Any Salford fan who wants the stadium to fail wants locking up away from the rest of humanity if you ask me. Of course people want the stadium to succeed and of course people want Salford as a club to succeed.

* in this eventuality, would the fans of SCR be happy to see the stadium bought from its current owners (the people of Salford) or be closed altogether?

I would hope the stadium has a clause somewhere stating that the facility must be used for community use, regardless of who is using it. Such an asset lock is in place on the new Community Stadium FC United are planning in Moston so that even if FCUM move in the future or go out of business, the stadium must be taken on by someone who will use it for the benefit of the local community. Hopefully, regardless of what happens with Salford, Sale or the SMC, the stadium can be used as a community facility. Whether or not that would be possible if the stadium fails I don't know, but I'd hope someone would be willing to take it on and run it as such.

* will the fans of SCR be happy to see vital improvements made to the stadium (including a proper supporters bar) and better transport links or will we be more concerned because "it's only happened because Sale are here."

I'd be perfectly happy to see improvements made. I would be concerned about how much influence other tenants have over us, regardless of whether or not it's Sale or anyone else. I believe a Supporters' Bar is now going to appear in the West Stand at some point - whilst I welcome this, the suggestion has been made to the SMC since we moved in and been ignored. Our co-tenants are getting it at the first request. This could be down to it now being financially viable, it could be a sign of our co-tenants being able to get their own way ahead of us as happened in their previous tenancy. Do we know the answer? Are we likely to find out? I'd say no to both of those and we've just got to make the best of it and hope the bar is a success. If it's run properly on our match days and used (although that will depend on the quality of beer solved for some) by Salford fans then we should have nothing to fear.

* will the fans of SCR be pleased to finally see some of the club's history/identity imprinted on the stadium (eg, pictures of legends in the concourses, bars named after past players etc) or will we be more bothered by the fact that Sale - as co-tenants - have got equal representation?

Considering the sterile feel to the place now, with nothing bar the illuminated signs on the main stand to make it feel like Salford City Reds' home ground, I'd be happy with any plan to show off Salford RLFC's history and heritage across the stadium. Knowing that Sale are co-tenants with equal right to representation means I would swallow my pride on the subject and put up with their representation as well. I won't like it, I don't have to like it, but what can I do?

* would the fans of SCR prefer to see the club die a slow death at the Willows or at least have the fighting chance of success in partnership with Sale at the new stadium?

I want to see the club survive, regardless of where we play. I still maintain that we could have survived at the Willows and, as things stand, I'm not sure whether we would have been better off taking Championship rugby for a while after RCD went belly-up in order to try and get ourselves back together and ensure any ground built was our own, giving us total control over our destiny. In fact, I think that's the biggest issue - not so much that Sale are moving in, it's the fact that this was meant to be our ground, securing our future and giving us total control over our future. That's not happened and we do have to deal with in the best possible way. But I'll come to that last.



We didn't. Which is another reason why many of us are annoyed - at Salford and the SMC, rather than Sale. I'm still intrigued by the part about financial benefits to Salford. I cannot see how costs on match days can be reduced by having a co-tenant playing on different days costing the SMC at least the same, if not more. I cannot see how rent of office/shop space would be affected, neither, as again it is extra costs for the SMC to recoup. Also, considering Sale's administration is based in Carrington, I still fail to see how we could benefit properly from sharing information on a regular, constant basis. I can see it happening at monthly meetings, but not constantly due to the two being apart from each other. Again, I could well be proven wrong on that as well.



I don't think anyone would argue with that at all. I think we all (well, 99% of us) agree with that. But after everything we've gone through as a club to get the stadium and seeing previous practices of Sale, statements from them claiming they want to "seize Manchester and the North West" and so on, many of us disappointed that Sale are able to walk in with no effort and are also slightly wary of what may come in the future if we as a club do not get our sh*t together and vastly improve the way things are run. Could all these fears turn out to be unfounded? Of course they could and I for one would certainly hold my hands up and say "fine, it worked, I was wrong, let's enjoy life and get on with it." But I'm still approaching the next couple of years with caution.

Bobby, it was posted when a lot of people were already in Wakefield, or were travelling across. Considering many people would have had attention elsewhere on Sunday, will be in work today and not everyone's constantly glued to the internet I think that's a bit of an unfair post.

Okay. Rather than quoting the entire post from Wayward Fan, I'll take the questions one by one. There's no real point responding to the facts as they are, well, facts. Same with the opinion at the end, we'd only be going round in circles if I start quoting and responding to that as well. I'd probably also be repeating myself. So...

* would fans of Salford City Reds prefer to see the stadium fail as a business?

I think that's a fairly daft question, to be frank. Any Salford fan who wants the stadium to fail wants locking up away from the rest of humanity if you ask me. Of course people want the stadium to succeed and of course people want Salford as a club to succeed.

* in this eventuality, would the fans of SCR be happy to see the stadium bought from its current owners (the people of Salford) or be closed altogether?

I would hope the stadium has a clause somewhere stating that the facility must be used for community use, regardless of who is using it. Such an asset lock is in place on the new Community Stadium FC United are planning in Moston so that even if FCUM move in the future or go out of business, the stadium must be taken on by someone who will use it for the benefit of the local community. Hopefully, regardless of what happens with Salford, Sale or the SMC, the stadium can be used as a community facility. Whether or not that would be possible if the stadium fails I don't know, but I'd hope someone would be willing to take it on and run it as such.

* will the fans of SCR be happy to see vital improvements made to the stadium (including a proper supporters bar) and better transport links or will we be more concerned because "it's only happened because Sale are here."

I'd be perfectly happy to see improvements made. I would be concerned about how much influence other tenants have over us, regardless of whether or not it's Sale or anyone else. I believe a Supporters' Bar is now going to appear in the West Stand at some point - whilst I welcome this, the suggestion has been made to the SMC since we moved in and been ignored. Our co-tenants are getting it at the first request. This could be down to it now being financially viable, it could be a sign of our co-tenants being able to get their own way ahead of us as happened in their previous tenancy. Do we know the answer? Are we likely to find out? I'd say no to both of those and we've just got to make the best of it and hope the bar is a success. If it's run properly on our match days and used (although that will depend on the quality of beer solved for some) by Salford fans then we should have nothing to fear.

* will the fans of SCR be pleased to finally see some of the club's history/identity imprinted on the stadium (eg, pictures of legends in the concourses, bars named after past players etc) or will we be more bothered by the fact that Sale - as co-tenants - have got equal representation?

Considering the sterile feel to the place now, with nothing bar the illuminated signs on the main stand to make it feel like Salford City Reds' home ground, I'd be happy with any plan to show off Salford RLFC's history and heritage across the stadium. Knowing that Sale are co-tenants with equal right to representation means I would swallow my pride on the subject and put up with their representation as well. I won't like it, I don't have to like it, but what can I do?

* would the fans of SCR prefer to see the club die a slow death at the Willows or at least have the fighting chance of success in partnership with Sale at the new stadium?

I want to see the club survive, regardless of where we play. I still maintain that we could have survived at the Willows and, as things stand, I'm not sure whether we would have been better off taking Championship rugby for a while after RCD went belly-up in order to try and get ourselves back together and ensure any ground built was our own, giving us total control over our destiny. In fact, I think that's the biggest issue - not so much that Sale are moving in, it's the fact that this was meant to be our ground, securing our future and giving us total control over our future. That's not happened and we do have to deal with in the best possible way. But I'll come to that last.



We didn't. Which is another reason why many of us are annoyed - at Salford and the SMC, rather than Sale. I'm still intrigued by the part about financial benefits to Salford. I cannot see how costs on match days can be reduced by having a co-tenant playing on different days costing the SMC at least the same, if not more. I cannot see how rent of office/shop space would be affected, neither, as again it is extra costs for the SMC to recoup. Also, considering Sale's administration is based in Carrington, I still fail to see how we could benefit properly from sharing information on a regular, constant basis. I can see it happening at monthly meetings, but not constantly due to the two being apart from each other. Again, I could well be proven wrong on that as well.



I don't think anyone would argue with that at all. I think we all (well, 99% of us) agree with that. But after everything we've gone through as a club to get the stadium and seeing previous practices of Sale, statements from them claiming they want to "seize Manchester and the North West" and so on, many of us disappointed that Sale are able to walk in with no effort and are also slightly wary of what may come in the future if we as a club do not get our sh*t together and vastly improve the way things are run. Could all these fears turn out to be unfounded? Of course they could and I for one would certainly hold my hands up and say "fine, it worked, I was wrong, let's enjoy life and get on with it." But I'm still approaching the next couple of years with caution.